2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

[ToniC]

Paul Townend gives a proper politicians answer on RTV ha, great swerve of the question, doesn't hint at either race just says Willie will fit him in somewhere etc...

They fucking hate punters…

[HarryTrotter]

Is there not an argument that if dysart was to be sent to the supreme that Nicky gets himself in a flap and moves constitution hill here

[DenmanSacre]

Is there not an argument that if dysart was to be sent to the supreme that Nicky gets himself in a flap and moves constitution hill here

No. He will do what's best for the horse and his team and not be worried about Willie's team

[TigerRolllllll]

Is there not an argument that if dysart was to be sent to the supreme that Nicky gets himself in a flap and moves constitution hill here

Prob unlikely, but i think its a good shout for a related double at 50s

Am big fan of scenario-type doubles....and luckily already have the Dysart/Sir G option covered at nice price.....and given chaos in these two markets, have added your shout...thx!

[Frankely My Dear]

If it wasn't quick, the ones in behind are Shit.

Seems a possibility with 2 PU. DD did just keep running like Forrest so maybe he ground them into submission. I have him for both races so no preference for me

[Irish Rugby]

Dysart - we've seen the performance, got the political answer from the jockey, but has Mullins been quoted anywhere yet?
All we have left is to get the view of the time boys.

I'll have to watch it again. He didn't appear as fluid a jumper over the hurdles, but like GDC, was able to use his engine to get a lead, maintain it, and not stop at the business end. That engine and getting a lead might be of more help in a Ballymore, than the Supreme.

As said above, we need to see what sort of performance SG puts in at the DRF.

[Irish Rugby]

The likes of Galopin Des Champs over fences at Christmas and now today, Dysart Dynamo, will surely put others off, lining up against them. Might be particularly small fields for both the old RSA and the Ballymore, if DD goes there, with connections seeing the National Hunt Chase and the Albert Bartlett as easier options?

GDC and DD are the two standout performances from novices this year.

I know people are talking about the Supreme but that betting drift last week, for the Supreme for DD, while its price for the Ballymore, came in. I wonder how telling that was.............or not?

[Eggs]

…..for the sake of the July Saxon Warrior forum Yankee, let’s hope he comes here and the race in an hour or so pans out;

Dysart (Bally) 25-1, State Man (Sup) 33-1; GDC (RSA) 8-1; Capo (NHC) 20-1

[Quevega]

The likes of Galopin Des Champs over fences at Christmas and now today, Dysart Dynamo, will surely put others off, lining up against them. Might be particularly small fields for both the old RSA and the Ballymore, if DD goes there, with connections seeing the National Hunt Chase and the Albert Bartlett as easier options?

GDC and DD are the two standout performances from novices this year.

I know people are talking about the Supreme but that betting drift last week, for the Supreme for DD, while its price for the Ballymore, came in. I wonder how telling that was.............or not?

Shorter for supreme than ballymore on exchanges now, and thats with the 2 henderson horses.
Think paddy's now shorter also.
Still a lot of shit to happen but if Willie's interviewed later I'd be surprised if he's not more of a supreme favourer.

[Altior]

A lot weighs on how Sir Gerhard does in the DRF but after calming down, having a walk and a cigarette I'm confident Dysart comes here.

First things first, his owners are very small time and they'll take any Cheltenham win. The Ballymore is clearly the softer of the two and Willie like all trainers will want to appease his owners. Compare that to Cheveley Park whose colours have dominated Cheltenham races in recent years and have already won this race with Envoi Allen.

The Gold Cup is obviously the big fish for Thompson but the Supreme is one of the most famous races in racing and as we know he doesn't really care for NH now that his father has passed away so he's probably looking for big wins rather than any win at all, especially as he's been there done that with Envoi which was spine tingling. Coupled with that, Thompson has said Sir Gerhard will run in the Supreme most likely.

Obviously if Sir Gerhard gets done for toe in Dublin all of the above might be completely irrelevant but I think even if Sir Gerhard loses, as long as he's there abouts he goes on the Tuesday and Dysart goes on the Wednesday.

[Leman14]

At least it wasn't a 'no need to step him up in trip yet' answer at least

Dysart Dynamo Supreme
Sir Gerhard Ballymore

related double now pays 44.5/1

definitely worth a play imo

Did exactly this…

already have singles on Sir G in Sup and DD in the Bally, so it seemed a sensible play

[Dandrew99]

Think the prices shortly after the race have to be taken with a pinch of salt with a view to what his likely target is.

A lot of the money going down will be people covering after backing him for the Ballymore. If he was Willie's number 1 dart at the Supreme (I'm not saying he's not) then you'd expect the stable money to be down before the race, not after.

It hinges on Sir Gerhard at the DRF now, I still can't see Willie throwing him and DD at the Supreme when the Ballymore is wide open. And generally speaking, Willie's number one for the Supreme runs at the DRF (which DD still could).

[Atlantic Viking]

Tony Keenan tweeted the following. I don't pay much attention to sectionals, but if you do:

From the first to the line/Three out to the line (weight)
Dysart Dynamo: 3.47.9/1.02.8 (11-4)
Hiaou: 3.55.1/1.02.1 (12-0)
Supreme Jet: 3.58.1/1.00.2 (12-0)

[Hurricane On The Fly]

A lot weighs on how Sir Gerhard does in the DRF but after calming down, having a walk and a cigarette I'm confident Dysart comes here.

First things first, his owners are very small time and they'll take any Cheltenham win. The Ballymore is clearly the softer of the two and Willie like all trainers will want to appease his owners. Compare that to Cheveley Park whose colours have dominated Cheltenham races in recent years and have already won this race with Envoi Allen.

The Gold Cup is obviously the big fish for Thompson but the Supreme is one of the most famous races in racing and as we know he doesn't really care for NH now that his father has passed away so he's probably looking for big wins rather than any win at all, especially as he's been there done that with Envoi which was spine tingling. Coupled with that, Thompson has said Sir Gerhard will run in the Supreme most likely.

Obviously if Sir Gerhard gets done for toe in Dublin all of the above might be completely irrelevant but I think even if Sir Gerhard loses, as long as he's there abouts he goes on the Tuesday and Dysart goes on the Wednesday.

Exaxtly This!

[Irish Rugby]

A lot weighs on how Sir Gerhard does in the DRF but after calming down, having a walk and a cigarette I'm confident Dysart comes here.

First things first, his owners are very small time and they'll take any Cheltenham win. The Ballymore is clearly the softer of the two and Willie like all trainers will want to appease his owners. Compare that to Cheveley Park whose colours have dominated Cheltenham races in recent years and have already won this race with Envoi Allen.

The Gold Cup is obviously the big fish for Thompson but the Supreme is one of the most famous races in racing and as we know he doesn't really care for NH now that his father has passed away so he's probably looking for big wins rather than any win at all, especially as he's been there done that with Envoi which was spine tingling. Coupled with that, Thompson has said Sir Gerhard will run in the Supreme most likely.

Obviously if Sir Gerhard gets done for toe in Dublin all of the above might be completely irrelevant but I think even if Sir Gerhard loses, as long as he's there abouts he goes on the Tuesday and Dysart goes on the Wednesday.

A well thought out analysis Sir. Just send it to Willie, his son, even Briony, in case she has any influence. Thompson as well, if it's any help for them to make their minds up.