2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

[Dandrew99]

I don't normally get involved in looking this far out at interesting price cuts....but i'm bored so here's one.

Dysart Dynamo cut 8s to 7s with PPBF at 10.59 today. He's there favourite for the race now and they haven't gone NRNB just yet, but perhaps this is in advance of doing so...

Was just about to post in the other thread about this. They pushed out Sir Gerhard at the same time, so read into that what you will...

(We definitely need a scratching chin emoji)

[CJW]

365 pushed DD out to 12s supreme aswell..

[jack1092]

I can't really decide if it's even worth reading into. Seems interesting though- maybe they know more on Sir G or something and his likely destination!?

[Dandrew99]

I can't really decide if it's even worth reading into. Seems interesting though- maybe they know more on Sir G or something and his likely destination!?

Gotta take a pinch of salt with all of these things. On its own I'd say it was nothing, but given that Sir G also got pushed out with PP, shortened by the firm with best odds and 365 pushed out DD for the Ballymore all within the space of an hour, I'd say it's worth reading into.

But I am also very sweet on the both of them for those two races so I'm probably thinking with at least 50% confirmation bias

[Guinness Village]

They've also shortened classic getaway 4 points for this race ahead of his Thursday, and when he monsters the Munster hurdle, he'll be nearly favourite!!

[CJW]

They've also shortened classic getaway 4 points for this race ahead of his Thursday, and when he monsters the Munster hurdle, he'll be nearly favourite!!

Hehe very true, or AB type. Potentially looking for a price about burkes horse for that race,

[Chris]

I know a lot of people probably cashed out on Guily Billy(CPS) after his first run however he quickly rectified that run, he now has a rating of 135. If the decision has been made that Sir Gerhard rated 140(CPS) runs in the Supreme and we feel that Classic Getaway(CPS) runs in the Albert Barlette then surely Guily Billy will run in the Ballymore.

I also wonder if Henry ran Grand Jury in the Lawlor's to see how good the opposition was if my theory is correct than 66/1 for Guily Billy with P.P. is far too big.
Does anyone concur or have a completely different view regarding Guily Billy. He has a P2P rating of 94 the same as Bob Olinger had.

[billymag]

I would have a big question over Classic Getaway going AB, would imagine hes as likely to run in the Ballymore, but youll know after his run

[jack1092]

I know a lot of people probably cashed out on Guily Billy(CPS) after his first run however he quickly rectified that run, he now has a rating of 135. If the decision has been made that Sir Gerhard rated 140(CPS) runs in the Supreme and we feel that Classic Getaway(CPS) runs in the Albert Barlette then surely Guily Billy will run in the Ballymore.

I also wonder if Henry ran Grand Jury in the Lawlor's to see how good the opposition was if my theory is correct than 66/1 for Guily Billy with P.P. is far to big.
Does anyone concur or have a completely different view regarding Guily Billy. He has a P2P rating of 94 the same as Bob Olinger had.

Initial impression is Guily Billy probably won't be good enough at this stage of his career but his next run will reveal much more.

Grand Jury was earmarked for the Lawlors from before GB even won his maiden so i wouldn't go as far as saying GJ was running their to test opposition for Guily Billy.

[Studfarm254]

I think Hawai game could be one that’s gone under the radar a bit. Bolted up in a French bumper and I was really taken by it’s hurdle debut. Pulled like a maniac most of the way and won very very easily. The horse in 2nd was a point winner and the horse well back in 4th was a 97 rated flat horse who’d already shown fair form over hurdles. Horse clearly has a serious engine, if they can teach it to settle better i think it could be as good as any of the Irish novices we’ve seen so far. Very interested to see where this horse is entered next

[ComplyOrDie]

I would have a big question over Classic Getaway going AB, would imagine hes as likely to run in the Ballymore, but youll know after his run

Why do you think that billymag ?

[FinalFurlong91]

Why do you think that billymag ?

Itd be reasonably unlikely they'd run such an expensive horse in a race as gruelling as the bartlett after likely only 2 starts wouldn't it?

They may not even run at Cheltenham after being unable to get enough experience and aim for punchestown

[ComplyOrDie]

Itd be reasonably unlikely they'd run such an expensive horse in a race as gruelling as the bartlett after likely only 2 starts wouldn't it?

They may not even run at Cheltenham after being unable to get enough experience and aim for punchestown

You think Willie would put price over where he thinks the horse is best placed?

He's highly likely a very good staying chaser in the making. His p2p was good. The crux for him with regards to the festival is his sire, but Willie won't care too much about that, but you may be right, they may not even run at the festival

[Cheltenham Novice Chase]

You think Willie would put price over where he thinks the horse is best placed?

He's highly likely a very good staying chaser in the making. His p2p was good. The crux for him with regards to the festival is his sire, but Willie won't care too much about that, but you may be right, they may not even run at the festival

In OJA the middle distance was suggested as his most likely distance. Moreover, I think Mullins and CPS realise they made an error sending Allaho to the AB. That, coupled with his relative inexperience, would suggest to me the Ballymore would be more likely. What would make you think the AB when they AB is typically won by a horse with 4-5 runs?

[FinalFurlong91]

You think Willie would put price over where he thinks the horse is best placed?

He's highly likely a very good staying chaser in the making. His p2p was good. The crux for him with regards to the festival is his sire, but Willie won't care too much about that, but you may be right, they may not even run at the festival

Him being a very good staying chaser for the future would seem like an excellent reason not to run in the bartlett just 10 weeks after making his hurdles debut to me