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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
    I just got a response from someone at Robcour, I wont say who to save them potentially being swamped with questions, but they answered very quickly and seem a top lot! Anyway, it's a positive one:

    "Gerri is all good - like a lot of horses over the past month or so he’s just been waiting for soft ground which we just haven’t had up to now! Should be out in a maiden hurdle over the next few weeks once it’s safe ground"
    Just had the exact same response to a question I asked him..

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    • Whatdeawant came from an impossible position to win at Navan and looks ready made for the Ballymore at Cheltenham, which his owners sponsor. We’ll plot a route there with him.

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      • Good to hear that. I did like his performance first time up and although I don't think he will win this, I don't think he would be disgraced.
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        • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
          I just got a response from someone at Robcour, I wont say who to save them potentially being swamped with questions, but they answered very quickly and seem a top lot! Anyway, it's a positive one:

          "Gerri is all good - like a lot of horses over the past month or so he’s just been waiting for soft ground which we just haven’t had up to now! Should be out in a maiden hurdle over the next few weeks once it’s safe ground"
          Great stuff, thanks!

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          • …Mullins re Whatdeawant;

            ’He came from an impossible position to win at Navan & looks ready made for the Ballymore, which his owners sponsor. We’ll plot a route there with him”.

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            • Feel some good value still here.

              Trying to solve the lawlors puzzle for this. Who are we thinking for the short list for that race?

              A few notable ones for me are Ginto, Hollow Games, classic getaway. For me all these are either opposable or will be better over further (AB). I don't like how Classic Getaway raced straight over this trip.

              whatdeawant will be a runner and is still a big price and has form lines with Ginto. He is interesting, Ginto too.

              Kilcruit, sir gerhard, journey with me, questions marks. I never warmed to SG and JWM was noted as not maybe not the same as BOB (who is? Lol)

              As for Kilcruit & Sir gerhard, I've got no idea. I never warmed to SG and Kilcruit just looked too bad on debut. He could come on massively but still prefer him in supreme.

              Leaves me with Dysart Dynamo as my fancy. Think he'll be suited to this distance and will bring out further improvement. Still 12s available.

              Sorry for the ramble!

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              • Agree with this My Flutters

                Feels the most open Novice race. I still think Ginto won't be quick enough. I hope journey with me goes potato race...and I'm doubtful sir gerhard will get the 2 and a half trip

                Objectively I liked kilcruit for this but I've shifted all my bets to the supreme....so don't want to switch them back.

                Dysart Seems the most logical now....but it's without strong conviction...

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                • Hob house is out today for hendo..over 2m4f if he looks good then this could answer the questions regarding constitution hill or here?

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                  • Originally posted by Ray View Post
                    Hob house is out today for hendo..over 2m4f if he looks good then this could answer the questions regarding constitution hill or here?
                    If he starts his novice hurdlers off over 2 1/2 they tend to end up in the AB or nowhere

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                    • Does anyone know anything about Hendersons horse Firestep? backed it for the Ballymore but haven't seen it run yet or heard anything of an entry

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                      • Originally posted by JamieSensible View Post
                        Does anyone know anything about Hendersons horse Firestep? backed it for the Ballymore but haven't seen it run yet or heard anything of an entry
                        He’s got one out this Friday called city chief, owned by the donnelys, it’s been added to the ballymore market 20/1 bet365 and Bartlett betting at 25/1. Jerry McGrath put him up as one of his horses in the jumpers to follow book.

                        Here is his PTP

                        Last edited by MTR; 13 December 2021, 09:22 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by JamieSensible View Post
                          Does anyone know anything about Hendersons horse Firestep? backed it for the Ballymore but haven't seen it run yet or heard anything of an entry
                          I think David Jennings is a huge fan if i recall correctly. Don't know much about it myself.

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                          • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                            I think David Jennings is a huge fan if i recall correctly. Don't know much about it myself.
                            That’s enough to make me look elsewhere

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                            • Originally posted by MTR View Post

                              He’s got one out this Friday called city chief, owned by the donnelys, it’s been added to the ballymore market 20/1 bet365 and Bartlett betting at 25/1. Jerry McGrath put him up as one of his horses in the jumpers to follow book.

                              Here is his PTP

                              https://twitter.com/theracingjosh/st...984308225?s=21
                              Had my eye on this horse, mentioned it in my post on the tracking for cheltenham festival thread, just not sure what trip they're going to go down. My guess would be ballymore but I haven't a clue

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                              • jonthehammer Thanks to Jon who passed me on the PTP Dossier again this year..not sure he needs a thanks as he's sitting in the Maldives now

                                This is what was noted about City Chief




                                City Chief: 4 Soldier Of Fortune Form:1: Nicky Henderson

                                Rangy bay gelding with white spot on his face and a couple of white socks: a 36k store in 2020: his dam was a 5-time track winner(including a listed bumper): his half-brother, Premium Package, a point and hurdle winner has been a flattering to deceive merchant for Henry de Bromhead. Saddled by Denis Murphy for a nine-runner maiden on the old racecourse circuit at Tralee(s/h) in May. In a race run at a crawl for 2 miles, he dropped anchor in midfield, relaxing beautifully. When the inevitable last 6 furlongs injection of pace materialised, he was for a few strides after 3 out caught a little flat footed: soon back into rhythm, he was rolling at a fair lick heading to the second last: he winged the concluding fences and his jockey Luke Murphy with a degree of confidence dropped his head in front close to the winning post. There was plenty to admire about the style and nature of his success and it took a bid of 210k to ensure a transfer to the Henderson yard via Tattersalls May sales.

                                He has loads of scope to bulk out his frame and he could easily adjust to a drop in trip. The slow time of the race prevents one from overegging his pudding: when French Dynamite won the corresponding maiden in 2019(albeit on a sounder surface), he clocked 5.48, City Chief stopped the timer at 6.38…that 50 seconds differential highlights the lack of a proper gallop in the 2021 version of the Tralee maiden. City Chief is liable to be fertile raw material for Nicky to nurture and winning a bumper on his track debut can be achieved and he is liable to figure amongst the upper-class novice hurdlers in his yard in 2021/22: my hunch is it may take 18 months or more before he is the complete physical package and his novice chase campaign at around that time will be an exciting one.

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