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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
    Just watched Constitution Hills run yesterday

    Thought he settled very nicely and absolutely powered up the sandown hill

    he is firmly on my radar for this atm, I see no reason to think that might I hasnt run his race

    Be interesting to see where they go next
    His last winner of this that he trained (I can’t explain) followed up in the ballymore listed hurdle at Cheltenham and was thrashed by Jarveys Plate ...but then ice was out of getaway so go figure. I think this fella is way quicker and slicker and would be a lot less confident of him stepping up in trip but it’s possible. Personally I think the trainer has unfinished business for the owner with this race. I think they thought they would win it before and unless it’s obvious that he needs further I think he’ll end up in the supreme.

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    • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

      His last winner of this that he trained (I can’t explain) followed up in the ballymore listed hurdle at Cheltenham and was thrashed by Jarveys Plate ...but then ice was out of getaway so go figure. I think this fella is way quicker and slicker and would be a lot less confident of him stepping up in trip but it’s possible. Personally I think the trainer has unfinished business for the owner with this race. I think they thought they would win it before and unless it’s obvious that he needs further I think he’ll end up in the supreme.
      Yes I think I'd need to see an entry over 2m4f

      Nicky doesn't mind running more than one in the supreme

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

        Yes I think I'd need to see an entry over 2m4f

        Nicky doesn't mind running more than one in the supreme
        Exactly. He is not the kind of trainer to run his novices over trips further than absolutely necessary. There was lots of debate over Shishkin. The jock at one point said he thought 2m 4 would suit and the trainer had none of it.

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        • If anyone is interested CH is 12 with sky and 10 with hills for ballymore. I’ve also posted on the supreme thread

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          • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
            If anyone is interested CH is 12 with sky and 10 with hills for ballymore. I’ve also posted on the supreme thread
            12's with B365

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            • Just a thought.......
              Where Constitution Hill runs might depend on jockey, if Nico is to ride both they may have Jonbon - Supreme and Constitution Hill - Ballymore
              However if Aiden Coleman rides Jonbon then it won't matter, but as far as I'm aware Nico missed the Jonbon ride through injury
              As JP has no job jockey nowadays it puts up the question of who will ride ???
              I have nibbled at Constitution Hill in the Ballymore as I think he'll be ridden by Nico so they'll split the big guns
              Maybe

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              • I'd just assume Coleman rides Jonbon.
                Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                • I remember reading the below which suggests Nico had the ride -

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                  • Yes. My assumption is that they'd both go to the Supreme based on what we've seeny, and therefore it's logical that Coleman rides Jonbon and de Boinville rides Constitution Hill.

                    They've still got another one to come out that would almost certainly be aimed here too, so nothing is a given I suspect.
                    Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                    • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                      Exactly. He is not the kind of trainer to run his novices over trips further than absolutely necessary. There was lots of debate over Shishkin. The jock at one point said he thought 2m 4 would suit and the trainer had none of it.
                      Absolutely agree with this.
                      Having followed this yard with a fair amount of interest over the years , they will usually run these types in the Supreme rather than the Ballymore . Of course it’s possible they could split them, but I think one of the two …..J and CH, would have to convince them a fair bit for that to happen.

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                      • When are the entries for the lawlors?

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                        • Originally posted by Myflutters View Post
                          When are the entries for the lawlors?
                          Entries close midday tomorrow
                          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                            Entries close midday tomorrow
                            Thank you,

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                            • For anybody interested largy debut is priced up by PP at 16s for this

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                              • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
                                For anybody interested largy debut is priced up by PP at 16s for this
                                365 go 20', which I've just added myself

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