Next year with Willie's novice chasers will be impossible. Even worse than this year.
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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle
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Originally posted by Myflutters View Post
These comments about DD have been reiterated this morning by Graham Cunningham.
Ruby on the preview show deserted DD if he was to go supreme, slight preference for Jonbon.
Townend already stated to willie, DD will settle no problem previously. Exchanges obviously been told something else. I expect them both to stay in both races until last decs.
These exchange moves are way above my head haha
Keep banging the 'he settles perfectly in behind when working' line for DD. Also many times have mentioned how quick Sir Gerhard is.
The exchanges make little sense to how many in the yard see Sir Gerhard/DD are split. Obviously it all boils down to what Willie decides,and nothing else.
However, it it wasn't for one run, in the Moscow Flyer, against some boats, I don't even think there would be any debate about this at all.
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Originally posted by Spectre View PostNext year with Willie's novice chasers will be impossible. Even worse than this year.
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
Hence why I think having (for next year) 'novice chase target discussion' and 'novice hurdle target discussion' threads are so essential!
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Originally posted by Ice View Post
If any bookies are doing twar markets next year i will definitely be going that way, gdc is one of the few I've backed for a specific race (banc) and that's on my mind for next year now !
For example, anyone know what price GDC and BOb are for the 2023 Gold Cup with Unibet ?
4/1 and 8/1....
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
I think the ship has sailed now. We've spent months debating it and most those debates are done, we'll know soon enough
Would save clogging up Supreme thread talking about where SG might head etc.next year.
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Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
I agree, though you can't include in multis and I wouldn't be holding out a great deal of hope for any value.
For example, anyone know what price GDC and BOb are for the 2023 Gold Cup with Unibet ?
4/1 and 8/1....
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Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
I meant for next year. I.e. start the '23 threads now. Some of us looked for early '22 value during the '21 festival and might do again this time?
Would save clogging up Supreme thread talking about where SG might head etc.next year.
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Originally posted by Odin View Post
I wonder if this could actually give us value though? Surely both would go Ryanair next year if they aren't deemed good enough stayers for the RSA this year? Monkfish is one I'd be interested in, as well as Allaho if he sneaks under the radar odds wise
At 4/1 and 8/1 those two take 37.5% of the market, but you can bet your life the others quoted will be taking the overround way way way above 100%...
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Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
I agree, though you can't include in multis and I wouldn't be holding out a great deal of hope for any value.
For example, anyone know what price GDC and BOb are for the 2023 Gold Cup with Unibet ?
4/1 and 8/1....
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TWAR is a very hard task imo. You have to be even more selective. Obviously getting shorter odds, also to my knowledge those that offer it cash out won't be an option either? (I know many on here have cursed it this year though, so maybe not an issue to some)
Out of my 15. Only 5 of them are now shorter in their predicted targets. At least 5 non runners. The rest can be backed or could have been backed similar odds or higher NRNB. I know maybe my personal selections are probably shite and others have picked better but just to give people an idea of mine. I will see how they go this year and the reevaluate, think I thought the way some I've heard on here are thinking and just want to try and make some take a step back and rethink, the grass isn't always greener!
Sorry I know this is the ballymore thread! Even looking forward to next year the main bumper runners will be single digits any race. Prob as short as 2s/3s.
Not trying to put anyone off just don't assume it's easier or bring you less hassle.
Back to Ballymore. I currently favour Ginto and may look to back a double digit horse on the day as not overly convinced with much else atm! I'm warming to JWM again but think I'm happy enough with where I stand with him atm.
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Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
It's a nice angle though personally I doubt either go Ryanair.
At 4/1 and 8/1 those two take 37.5% of the market, but you can bet your life the others quoted will be taking the overround way way way above 100%...
They took a hiding last year too (now restricted with Hills), they were by far best any race prices.
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