2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

[Block 205]

It's in the stable tour.

Kilcruit
He ran well in a bumper for my brother Tony and then we bought him. He was fantastic, I was hoping he'd made a good chaser down the line somewhere but he was fantastic as a bumper horse. He ran very well when second at Cheltenham and came out to turn the form around at Punchestown. He's by Stowaway, he's a very tall, light-framed horse and looking at what he did in bumpers I'd be inclined to go down the shorter route with him, we can always explore our way with him. I'm happy that's (two miles) where we'll start off and we'll be aiming for the Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle. He doesn't take an awful lot of work and he'll come to hand early enough.

Sir G
He looked fantastic at Cheltenham and ran very well again at Punchestown when third. He’s a horse we’ll be going novice hurdling with and you’d imagine he’s more a Ballymore horse than a Sky Bet Supreme horse, but we’ll let him tell us as the season progresses.

FWIW - IMO - it's far from set in stone.

Thanks Q - they seem to have flipped these two around over the summer, but as others have said, there's still plenty of time for this to change again!

[Spectre]

No mention of Dysart Dynamo

Obviously the tour cant include every horse he has but theres a few average horses in there and you'd have thought he would have made the list.

Did anyone keep the tour from last year?

Didn't he leave Galopin des Champs out?

It's possible I'm wrong, but if not, hmmmmm...................

[darlojim]

Did anyone keep the tour from last year?

Didn't he leave Galopin des Champs out?

It's possible I'm wrong, but if not, hmmmmm...................

GALOPIN DES CHAMPS

He won his maiden at Auteuil, he's a beautiful horse. I'm sure he'll be in the staying division of hurdlers but in future I'm really looking forward to getting him over fences.


He was in there mate.

[charlie]

Did anyone keep the tour from last year?

Didn't he leave Galopin des Champs out?

It's possible I'm wrong, but if not, hmmmmm...................

He has 208 horses I think so I wouldnt worry too much about horses he leaves out cause he has to leave some out

[Chris]

For anyone interested in Three Stripes Life @ 33/1 I suggest backing today because his price is going to collapse tomorrow before he runs on Tuesday.

[Folski]

I did some research on this race last year when looking at it and I found bumper wins post Spring we're a reoccurring trend. I think the only winner in the last 10 was Willoughby Court to have no won a bumper in the spring. He had won 2 bumpers before Christmas and was 5th in the big one at Aintree.

Bob Olinger - W 2m2f bumper at Gowran Park March
Envoi - W 2m1f Champion Bumper at Festival March
City Island - W 2m Bumper at Punchestown May
Samcro - W 2m Bumper at Fairyhouse April
Willoughby Court - 5th at Aintree April
Yorkhill - W 2m bumper at Punchestown May
Windsor Park - W 2m bumper at Galway Aug
Faugheen - W 2m bumper at Punchestown May
The New One - W 2m bumper at Aintree April
Simonsig - W 2m bumper at Fairyhouse April

Barcardys was massively impeded in WC's win after winning the Aintree bumper the year before. Windsor Park also won a bumper in Jan at Leopardstown. With the exception of the Gowran bumper the rest are all the biggest festivals.

Some horse who ran in this race without winning a bumper or winning a bumper in the Spring
2013 - Pont Alexandra 3rd 6/4f
2015 - Nichols Canyon 3rd 7/2f
2016 - Yanworth 2nd 11/10f
2017 - Neon Wolf 2nd 2/1f - won a bumper at Christmas before Cheltenham.
2018 - Battleoverdoyen PU 3/1f - won a bumper at Punchestown at the end of Nov.
2018 - Champ 2nd 9/2 - had a run over hurdles in the spring the year before.
2020 - Gallard Du Mesnil - 2nd 9/4 had been beat in several bumpers in france.
2020 - Bravemansgame - 3rd 4/1 had been beat in 2 bumper pre-Christmas the year before

I am hoping to use this to identify non-winners as well as a potential winner.

[JackieMoon33]

Folski where is the cut off point for ‘post spring’?

[Folski]

Folski where is the cut off point for ‘post spring’?

Post winer is probably a better term , I suppose i included Windsor Park winning at Galway which to be fair is a big summer festival in Ireland but the other ones are either Cheltenham/Aintree/Fairyhouse or Punchestown with Bob's win at Gowran being the least fancy.

[JackieMoon33]

Post winer is probably a better term , I suppose i included Windsor Park winning at Galway which to be fair is a big summer festival in Ireland but the other ones are either Cheltenham/Aintree/Fairyhouse or Punchestown with Bob's win at Gowran being the least fancy.

Cool so Cheltenham is the earliest a horse could win to fit the stats?

Its analysis I’d never considered before and I’m still not sure how to assess it. It would rule out two of my three selections (Three Stripe Life, Gerri Colombe and Dysart Dynamo) for the race and I’m not sure I’m prepared to do that

[Black Dog]

Great stats Folski. I've only had 1 free bet on the Ballymore so far so this info is very useful as i start to look for the winner. Shame the favourite fits the bill

[darlojim]

Dysart Dynamo
5g Westerner - Dysart Dancer
Ms Eleanor Manning
1-1
RPR 135b OR -
Looking at him in the parade ring, one would think he's a chasing type. However, we're going hurdling this season. Being able to win bumpers at Clonmel and Punchestown during the last campaign probably means he'll be able to compete over shorter trips.

[Atlantic Viking]

Dysart Dynamo
5g Westerner - Dysart Dancer
Ms Eleanor Manning
1-1
RPR 135b OR -
Looking at him in the parade ring, one would think he's a chasing type. However, we're going hurdling this season. Being able to win bumpers at Clonmel and Punchestown during the last campaign probably means he'll be able to compete over shorter trips.

That's what we wanted to hear, lovely

[Lobos]

Dysart Dynamo
5g Westerner - Dysart Dancer
Ms Eleanor Manning
1-1
RPR 135b OR -
Looking at him in the parade ring, one would think he's a chasing type. However, we're going hurdling this season. Being able to win bumpers at Clonmel and Punchestown during the last campaign probably means he'll be able to compete over shorter trips.

Good to hear he's well. Sounds like he could be another for the Supreme.

[darlojim]

Good to hear he's well. Sounds like he could be another for the Supreme.

So so many to split up this year its crazy, I feel like any that aren't right at the top could be saved for other festivals this year due to his high number it seems.

[Lobos]

So so many to split up this year its crazy, I feel like any that aren't right at the top could be saved for other festivals this year due to his high number it seems.

Absolutely. Some will be saved for Fairyhouse without a doubt.