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2022 National Hunt Novices Chase

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  • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post

    Ye I second that Insta, RC is bang on, pick a race you think a certain horse has the credentials for & back accordingly, you won’t always be right & neither will the trainer but more often than not it will end up with a better position & hopefully result

    It’s a skill but imo there’s little point in covering races you don’t think your selection can win!
    That’s an excellent point. Two give two examples I have backed Dysart Dynamo for both Ballymore and the Supreme weighted significantly more to the former originally now much closer to 50:50 as I think he can win both. JWM I barely have a penny on for the Ballymore as just don’t fancy him so agree completely no point covering races you don’t think they can win even if they turn up there. That said for many of the Novices in particular I can more often than not see them potentially winning over two distances.

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    • Originally posted by Ray View Post
      Hell be a non runner stop shattin yourselves
      Brilliant. I’m with you. Ground will be bottomless. Gordo will do the right thing and pull him on the morning. See you on Sunday.

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      • Originally posted by ToniC View Post

        That’s not what I’m saying l… though just 10 years ago it would be par for the course - the animals haven’t evolved in such a significant way in that time, though training methods may have - but what I’m saying is, though it’s taken as a given that Braeside will run in the 4 miler at the festival and the aintree national, as well as presumably now sunday, people think that it absolutely could not be possible for another horse to do the same?
        Where have you seen that braeside goes for the national? The last I heard mount Ida (same owners) was on course for it, but I don't remember seeing a concrete 'will go' statement for braeside?

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        • BRAESIDE
          Weight: 10st 5lb.

          The intention is to run him as well if he gets in. He will run in the National Hunt Chase and then go to the National. He made a mistake in Thyestes and a bit like Death Duty that just put him out of the race a little bit. He has been really good since then. He has already won the Cork National on heavy ground and he stays very well but he ran well in the Paddy Power at Leopardstown on good ground. He is a smart horse apart from what happened the last day.

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          • RUN WILD FRED
            Weight: 11st 1lb.

            That looks a lovely weight for him. He could go for something like the National Hunt Chase at Cheltenham but I think he could be a National horse after that. He was second in last year’s Irish Grand National and he ticks a lot of boxes. He is a very consistent character. Taking in the Irish National is a good route to go before having a crack at the Grand National. He is a big staying chaser and I think he could easily be a Grand National horse. He has that touch of class about him as well.

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            • Interesting seeing those side by side.

              Braeside - 'Will run in the National Hunt Chase'

              RWF - 'Could go for something like the National Hunt Chase'
              One is far more certain than the other about turning up here.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                BRAESIDE
                Weight: 10st 5lb.

                The intention is to run him as well if he gets in. He will run in the National Hunt Chase and then go to the National. He made a mistake in Thyestes and a bit like Death Duty that just put him out of the race a little bit. He has been really good since then. He has already won the Cork National on heavy ground and he stays very well but he ran well in the Paddy Power at Leopardstown on good ground. He is a smart horse apart from what happened the last day.
                Yep that will be the quote I've missed, thanks

                Also agree with Benjy23 that there's some political terminology going on with the two possible runners!
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                • Run Wild Fred would have a better chance of winning GN than Braeside as well. Classier, higher weighted horses have been far more successful in recent years following modifications of the course. Braeside on 10st 5lb is not guaranteed to even get in the race. I don't think Codd has been booked Sunday in view of riding Braeside at Aintree as Jamie just doesn't have rides in the Grand National does he ?

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                  • Don't panic! I was always told to bet enough so that it hurt when they lost. RWF not running would hurt, but he's not making or breaking the festival.


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                    • Worth remembering that Michael O’Leary tells Gordon where his horses are running when it comes to the likes of the Grand National so you can read trainer quotes until your blue in the face and it won’t tell you too much.

                      Gordon wanted to run him in the KM last season and MOL told him Irish Nash..

                      You’d have though Rob James or Lisa would have been riding him on Sunday if they were riding him in this - Not like he’s a sneaky one that they fancy so keep the amateur off it.
                      Last edited by KevMc; 18 February 2022, 11:31 PM.

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                      • Fury Road and Farouk look value to me at NRNB prices

                        Prob only one will run....think Farouk may go Browns

                        Similarly rate to RWF and 2-3 times the price...Fury should be close to 2nd fav....he has beaten Vanillier and did beat RWF

                        If you want cover for RWF not going, then Fury Road looks a play....can't see him being 8-1 on day
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                        • Fury Road would be the best horse in the race comfortably. If he goes here he will be a max bet for me as I could see him being an e/w shout

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                          • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                            Fury Road would be the best horse in the race comfortably. If he goes here he will be a max bet for me as I could see him being an e/w shout
                            Why not take NRNB? Before shortens
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                            • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                              Why not take NRNB? Before shortens
                              I'm going to start chipping into it now to be fair

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                              • I put Fury Road in as the best NRNB price for this race for a while... with the 8L beating of RWF being key.... he was 8/1.

                                Since then he got walloped at the DRF, and is still 8/1 NRNB.

                                On a going day, he'd be mustard.

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