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2022 Mares Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Just thought she was tying up at the end and carried her head awkwardly. Should be beating the 2nd a lot easier getting weight from an inferior horse. Not for me.
    Pauls only really gone for BV after the last and she looks like she was just dossing tbh. I like the idea of her trying these tactics at Cheltenham. If she's good enough she'll win and if she's not it will play to TMSG.

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    • Jumping is better than it's ever been. That was the concern. She's passed and got a chance. She'll be following Stormys backside the whole way around too. Happy

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      • No direct quotes, and i'm not aware of any from Elliott post race. But the RP report states the Coral Cup in mind for Queens Brook.
        Would very much assume that's the reporters opinion, given the Mares was name checked prior by Elliott in recent stable tours.
        But she does have the Coral Cup entry...

        Burning Victory did not close out her race that strongly and was pressed all the way to the line by Queens Brook, who was said to have needed the run after nearly four months off and posted a lovely effort with the Coral Cup in mind.

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        • Originally posted by Silverbirch View Post
          Jumping is better than it's ever been. That was the concern. She's passed and got a chance. She'll be following Stormys backside the whole way around too. Happy
          It'll be interesting on tactics.
          If they adopt the same as today, both her and Stormy Ireland will be going at it from the front. Which might not help either.
          With Heaven Help Us likely to follow suit.
          There will be several in the race who will be delighted with such pace to aim at too.

          I was chuffed with the run from Burning Victory today though.
          Absolutely no issue with her jumping today. Which was what today was all about.
          Queens Brook was one to take out the race and i'll very likely back her off the back of that run.
          But I do think she was slightly flattered today by the winning margin. I think the winner could have found a little more if push came to shove
          And better ground should suit (Cesarewitch second was on good ground, along with a couple of flat wins last summer)

          Willie's stable tour today had this to say

          “Burning Victory runs today and I’d imagine that’s where she will go too. She’s yet to put it all together and I think the day she does her rating will shoot up. As soon as she gets her jumping together she could be a serious mare.”
          Which is exactly how I view her.
          That was only her 7th run over hurdles, and now her jumping looks to be improved she could go on another level.
          I'm not be any means thinking a star like some of his past mares, but potentially hitting the 150's.
          TMSG has had 12 runs over hurdles, Stormy Ireland 23, HHU 13, Echoes in Rain 9, Maries Rock 9. Even Queens Brook has had 6.

          Surprised she's still 8/1 actually, especially NRNB.

          What today has done I think, even if you weren't overly taken with the performance.
          Was add another 2 mares into the mix, probably around the low-mid 140's
          Where by you could make a valid case for 6 or 7 mares winning this race this year.

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          • Originally posted by jono View Post
            No direct quotes, and i'm not aware of any from Elliott post race. But the RP report states the Coral Cup in mind for Queens Brook.
            Would very much assume that's the reporters opinion, given the Mares was name checked prior by Elliott in recent stable tours.
            But she does have the Coral Cup entry...
            Very much needed the race, noted for being hard to get fit. Presume lots more to come. Owned by Bective stud so winning the mares would be a real bonus. Saying that I have covered for the Coral race. Elliot will know, keep the faith.

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            • Originally posted by jono View Post

              It'll be interesting on tactics.
              If they adopt the same as today, both her and Stormy Ireland will be going at it from the front. Which might not help either.
              With Heaven Help Us likely to follow suit.
              There will be several in the race who will be delighted with such pace to aim at too.

              I was chuffed with the run from Burning Victory today though.
              Absolutely no issue with her jumping today. Which was what today was all about.
              Queens Brook was one to take out the race and i'll very likely back her off the back of that run.
              But I do think she was slightly flattered today by the winning margin. I think the winner could have found a little more if push came to shove
              And better ground should suit (Cesarewitch second was on good ground, along with a couple of flat wins last summer)

              Willie's stable tour today had this to say



              Which is exactly how I view her.
              That was only her 7th run over hurdles, and now her jumping looks to be improved she could go on another level.
              I'm not be any means thinking a star like some of his past mares, but potentially hitting the 150's.
              TMSG has had 12 runs over hurdles, Stormy Ireland 23, HHU 13, Echoes in Rain 9, Maries Rock 9. Even Queens Brook has had 6.

              Surprised she's still 8/1 actually, especially NRNB.

              What today has done I think, even if you weren't overly taken with the performance.
              Was add another 2 mares into the mix, probably around the low-mid 140's
              Where by you could make a valid case for 6 or 7 mares winning this race this year.
              Agree with the bulk of this Jono, personally think Burning Victory was idling in front, her jump at the last showed she had plenty in the tank.

              She looked like she thought she had the race won 2f out!
              Last edited by SeanRock; 23 February 2022, 09:20 PM.

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              • Youd imagine queens brooks mark will be raised close to 140 after today

                Since she gave 2lb to a 143 mare and only got beat 2 lengths

                Handicap mark surely blown

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                • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post

                  Agree with the bulk of this Jono, personally think Burning Victory was idling in front, her jump at the last showed she had plenty in the tank.

                  She looked like she tho she had the race won 2f out!
                  Let's be honest she had the race won after 50 yards when townend was given an easy 5 lengths

                  She went pretty quick the first half of the race in first time cheekpieces I imagine that is why she tied up at the end

                  I dont buy she was idling personally but then I'm always suspicious as that as an excuse unless its a well known rogue like storm control or Abacadabras

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                  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                    Let's be honest she had the race won after 50 yards when townend was given an easy 5 lengths

                    She went pretty quick the first half of the race in first time cheekpieces I imagine that is why she tied up at the end

                    I don't buy she was idling personally but then I'm always suspicious as that as an excuse unless its a well known rogue like storm control or Abacadabras
                    Burning Victory had the race won 3 out, at which point QB was under pressure and BV only had to be shaken up after the last. Dossed for a bit and that was that, proximity to the winner can be taken too literally IMO.


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                    • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post
                      As a big Queens Brook backer & supporter I was very pleased with that. Will come on plenty & another step towards the main target. Pocket talking but I’d be confident she’ll reverse placing with BV at the festival
                      Totally agree Splinter. Very pleasing indeed from the Queen.

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                      • Queens Brook upped 7lb to 138 Irish Handicapper today, + u.k. tax for a run in the Coral. Mares ot Coral?

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                        • Originally posted by Mr X View Post
                          Queens Brook upped 7lb to 138 Irish Handicapper today, + u.k. tax for a run in the Coral. Mares ot Coral?
                          Coral Cup would be her best chance but suspect they'll take their chance in the Mares and hope to surprise like last year.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            Coral Cup would be her best chance but suspect they'll take their chance in the Mares and hope to surprise like last year.
                            If she could win the coral cup off likely 140-142 she'd need to be a 148+ horse which puts her bang there in this grade 1

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                            • Originally posted by Mr X View Post
                              Queens Brook upped 7lb to 138 Irish Handicapper today, + u.k. tax for a run in the Coral. Mares ot Coral?
                              I think that points to Mares Hurdle.... unless she gets 0 lbs (or 1lb) and they'll have to weigh that up.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                Coral Cup would be her best chance but suspect they'll take their chance in the Mares and hope to surprise like last year.
                                Black Tears wasn't really a surprise. Solid Coral Cup run the previous year and went into the race rated 148. On ratings she was actually bang there whereas QB isn't.

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