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Didn’t Vroum Vroum Mag get eight five day declarations one year ?
She/Mullins was probably the single reason why they changed the rules around multi decs and running twice in the week…
After much deliberation and toying with the idea she could go for another race, with a stayers hurdle entry and Handicaps not out of the question, I've now decided with this year's renewal looking weaker than last year's that this is her best chance of a win.
A likely much bigger field in a handicap and the top stayers a class above and her being the only mare from last year's first 4 home likely to return ( concerista still possible), 20/1 I feel is good value.
In a race dominated by Irish winners, only 2 British trained winners since its inception in 2008, you'd probably be correct in thinking I'm daft for betting on indefatigable.
But nothing from last year's novices has put in a performance to make me go wow, last year's top mares appear to have other targets or are no longer racing.
Has indefatigable improved? Probably not, but would she need to On last year's performance? I'm not sure she would.
In 2019 Roksana won the race with stormy Ireland ( rpr 147) beaten by 2 1\4 lengths stormy Ireland is currently a best price 7/1 for the mares hurdle.
in 2021 black tears won with concertista 2nd. Roksana was 3rd 1 3\4 lengths ahead of indefatigable (rpr 149) indefatigable is currently a best price 20/1 for the mares hurdle.
Indefatigables last run came in a mares handicap at cheltenham. She came second beaten a neck by martello sky conceding 5lbs, martello sky has since won a listed mares hurdle race at Sandown, she is currently a best price 16/1. I think it these two met at level weights in the mares I think indefatigable finishes ahead.
It was this timely boost to the form that has convinced me to act now with 20/1 available for the mares hurdle.
Forgiving her run in the long distance hurdle at Newbury her form has been very good, two rprs of 147 and a maiden win On the flat.
The last 2 seasons she has posted her best rpr of the season at the festival, I expect that trend to continue, in fact I think she can achieve her highest yet.
I think indefatigable represents excellent e/w value , in a race which a repeat of last year's 4th would see her go very close.
After much deliberation and toying with the idea she could go for another race, with a stayers hurdle entry and Handicaps not out of the question, I've now decided with this year's renewal looking weaker than last year's that this is her best chance of a win.
A likely much bigger field in a handicap and the top stayers a class above and her being the only mare from last year's first 4 home likely to return ( concerista still possible), 20/1 I feel is good value.
In a race dominated by Irish winners, only 2 British trained winners since its inception in 2008, you'd probably be correct in thinking I'm daft for betting on indefatigable.
But nothing from last year's novices has put in a performance to make me go wow, last year's top mares appear to have other targets or are no longer racing.
Has indefatigable improved? Probably not, but would she need to On last year's performance? I'm not sure she would.
In 2019 Roksana won the race with stormy Ireland ( rpr 147) beaten by 2 1\4 lengths stormy Ireland is currently a best price 7/1 for the mares hurdle.
in 2021 black tears won with concertista 2nd. Roksana was 3rd 1 3\4 lengths ahead of indefatigable (rpr 149) indefatigable is currently a best price 20/1 for the mares hurdle.
Indefatigables last run came in a mares handicap at cheltenham. She came second beaten a neck by martello sky conceding 5lbs, martello sky has since won a listed mares hurdle race at Sandown, she is currently a best price 16/1. I think it these two met at level weights in the mares I think indefatigable finishes ahead.
It was this timely boost to the form that has convinced me to act now with 20/1 available for the mares hurdle.
Forgiving her run in the long distance hurdle at Newbury her form has been very good, two rprs of 147 and a maiden win On the flat.
The last 2 seasons she has posted her best rpr of the season at the festival, I expect that trend to continue, in fact I think she can achieve her highest yet.
I think indefatigable represents excellent e/w value , in a race which a repeat of last year's 4th would see her go very close.
I agree she is one that you can put in the mix. Personally I will only add her in running. Firstly I think there is a fair chance she will play up at the start and secondly she isn’t the sweetest of travellers. Nevertheless if she sets off ok you’re in with a shout gl.
I agree she is one that you can put in the mix. Personally I will only add her in running. Firstly I think there is a fair chance she will play up at the start and secondly she isn’t the sweetest of travellers. Nevertheless if she sets off ok you’re in with a shout gl.
Valid point and something I considered, she probably lost 5 lengths to the winner in her last race with a slow start. Unfortunately betting in running, exchanges and cash out are all things that are unavailable to me.
Valid point and something I considered, she probably lost 5 lengths to the winner in her last race with a slow start. Unfortunately betting in running, exchanges and cash out are all things that are unavailable to me.
She also ran like a mule when I backed her in her penultimate run
She also ran like a mule when I backed her in her penultimate run
Completely downed tools
Understandably if you backed her then you'd be disappointed, and if you can't forgive that run you won't back her for this, however I can.
With Cheltenham form of 2,4,1,2,1,5 a previous festival winner, her seasonal high rprs coming at the festival the last 2 seasons I'm happy she always performs at cheltenham.
Asked the same question for the Gold Cup last week and am now going to ask it here.. if you’d not had a bet at this stage for this, who would you be playing at the prices?
Looks a complete lottery to my eye at this stage. Something will pop up to make me get involved but at this stage, I’m genuinely ok with having nothing (had half a point free bet Shewearsitwell at the start of the season but nothing proper) for the race at this stage.
For what it’s worth, if there was a gun to my head to get involved right now it would be to back TMSG small as she’s probably the fairest price considering she is the likeliest winner I think most would agree. And I would also have something on Echoes in Rain E/W when the race becomes a NRNB proposition assuming she’s still a double figure price. That would be my approach as of right now having spent a couple of hours going through the race and being generally none the wiser than I was beforehand.
….I still think Queens Brook is under the radar. Elliott says she is a difficult one to get fit, clearly burly on her last win I thought her hurdling was slick. Fine pedigree with her bumper form.
In his stable tour Elliott not only said this was the target, he suggested she would win it.
Only doubt is him saying after her win that she could now head to a handicap. I hope it’s the Mares Handicap at DRF en route to this.
….I still think Queens Brook is under the radar. Elliott says she is a difficult one to get fit, clearly burly on her last win I thought her hurdling was slick. Fine pedigree with her bumper form.
In his stable tour Elliott not only said this was the target, he suggested she would win it.
Only doubt is him saying after her win that she could now head to a handicap. I hope it’s the Mares Handicap at DRF en route to this.
I do like her too Eggs. That mares handicap at DRF has been a good guide to future Cheltenham winners so I’d be very interested to see how QB goes if she runs there. Possibly one to get onside for ‘any race’ as she crosses the line if she runs well.
I do like her too Eggs. That mares handicap at DRF has been a good guide to future Cheltenham winners so I’d be very interested to see how QB goes if she runs there. Possibly one to get onside for ‘any race’ as she crosses the line if she runs well.
in 2020 en route to coral cup 2nd black tears won the mares handicap you mention off 133, then took in the quevega mares hurdle which is sandwiched between drf and Cheltenham, she came 2nd in that And went on to the coral cup off 144. I think this will most likely be the same route QB will take. Win the quevega mares and it'll be mares hurdle at cheltenham, if not it will be coral cup, IMO.
in 2020 en route to coral cup 2nd black tears won the mares handicap you mention off 133, then took in the quevega mares hurdle which is sandwiched between drf and Cheltenham, she came 2nd in that And went on to the coral cup off 144. I think this will most likely be the same route QB will take. Win the quevega mares and it'll be mares hurdle at cheltenham, if not it will be coral cup, IMO.
The problem with this, is I reckon their will be half a dozen mares trying a similar thing, and at least another dozen that's been lined up for the handicap in Dublin.
It's going to be a question of nailing colours.
Hopefully the more likely ones stand out and there aren't as many as I think there'll be.
But the races that will be impacted are the ones you've highlighted and the mares novice.
The problem with this, is I reckon their will be half a dozen mares trying a similar thing, and at least another dozen that's been lined up for the handicap in Dublin.
It's going to be a question of nailing colours.
Hopefully the more likely ones stand out and there aren't as many as I think there'll be.
But the races that will be impacted are the ones you've highlighted and the mares novice.
Of course there'll be a number of mares with lbs in hand, but if queens brook has any chance in the mares hurdle, as was the original suggestion, she needs 20lbs in hand to be a realistic option. I'll be backing her for the handicap at drf, won't be for the mares hurdle as I've already backed indefatigable, and if she is given a mark similar to that of black tears, I will most certainly consider her for the coral cup.
One that interests me at longer price here is FINEST EVERMORE....still some 25s available (longer on exchange, tho have taken some)
I think TMSG will win and main rival for me is Royal Kahala if she goes, but am looking around for over-priced ones for the book and this strikes me as an opportunity....
Was one of the highly-rated Willie ones last season are good summer campaign, but was injured and missed festival
Comeback run was good behind Royal Kahala and finished very strong after patient ride (bodes well for hill)......and still achieving 145 PPR and is a very unexposed 6-year old who could progress
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