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2022 Champion Hurdle

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  • #91
    She'll have the lowest official rating in the Morgiana but i'd be surprised if she's not favourite on the day. Poor renewal potentially, she wins that and she's 6 or 7/1 i'd say. Still, i missed bigger prices so i'll leave her.

    Last edited by jack1092; 7 November 2021, 09:14 PM.

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    • #92
      I had French Aseel backed for this but cashed out when Willie said he might not be back this season.

      In the meantime I have got Aramon added to this market as this should be his division if he returns all well, Hills priced 50/1 so I took that as Betfair with cash out was only 25/1.

      If the race cuts up then 50/1 might be decent each way bet I feel.

      This was the quote when he won the 2020 Galway Hurdle;

      You'd like to think he could do what Sharjah and did and improve into a Champion Hurdle horse. I thought he'd shown his hand at Tipperary. I got a great start and was able to take a pull on the rail. He's jumped fantastically - Patrick Mullins, rider of Aramon

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      • #93
        Morgiana looks like cutting up.
        Prices are interesting.
        Looks like Sharjah v Echoes, and maybe one or 2 others will run. Zanyhir & Darasso maybe.
        Abacadabras might tun also as he won last year and they may fancy this more than taking on Honeysuckle.

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        • #94
          ….Echoes in the Rain 16-1 with Sky to win Morgiana & CH.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Quevega View Post
            Morgiana looks like cutting up.
            Prices are interesting.
            Looks like Sharjah v Echoes, and maybe one or 2 others will run. Zanyhir & Darasso maybe.
            Abacadabras might tun also as he won last year and they may fancy this more than taking on Honeysuckle.
            Could be Saldier and not Sharjah if we take the betting to go by Q. Have flip flopped in price since 5 day stage.

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            • #96
              No Saldier in the Morgiana. Just Aba, Darasso, Sharjah, Zanahiyr & EIR

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
                No Saldier in the Morgiana. Just Aba, Darasso, Sharjah, Zanahiyr & EIR
                That’s a decent line up.

                Lets hope for a cracking race.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • #98
                  Only Zanahiyr who likes to race prominent, hope it doesn't turn into a false run sprint.

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                  • #99
                    As much as I don't think EIR is good enough to win a Champion Hurdle I do think she'll be good enough to beat that lot. Obviously she'll need to to have any chance of even running in the race, let alone winning it. I think, despite his admirable run in the Champion Hurdle, Sharjah has probably seen his better days behind him now. No doubt Willie will manage to win a decent pot with him at some point, but I don't think this is it, nor do I think this is his favoured track, despite beating a 10 year old Faugheen a few years back now.

                    Connections have already said Zanahiyr may need 2m 4f, and Abacadabras could well be in that same bracket. That leaves Darasso, who is probably just like the previously two mentioned, and likely needs at least the intermediate trip. Saldier gave him a target two runs back and he couldn't reel him in over 2m, instead Saldier went clear again that day.

                    I didn't want to put a downer on it before she's even had the chance to run, but I think she wins and she gets cut for the Champion Hurdle. The time to back her, if you like her, is before this race and not after it, IMO.

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                      As much as I don't think EIR is good enough to win a Champion Hurdle I do think she'll be good enough to beat that lot. Obviously she'll need to to have any chance of even running in the race, let alone winning it. I think, despite his admirable run in the Champion Hurdle, Sharjah has probably seen his better days behind him now. No doubt Willie will manage to win a decent pot with him at some point, but I don't think this is it, nor do I think this is his favoured track, despite beating a 10 year old Faugheen a few years back now.

                      Connections have already said Zanahiyr may need 2m 4f, and Abacadabras could well be in that same bracket. That leaves Darasso, who is probably just like the previously two mentioned, and likely needs at least the intermediate trip. Saldier gave him a target two runs back and he couldn't reel him in over 2m, instead Saldier went clear again that day.

                      I didn't want to put a downer on it before she's even had the chance to run, but I think she wins and she gets cut for the Champion Hurdle. The time to back her, if you like her, is before this race and not after it, IMO.
                      Sharjah running and to an extent Abacadabras means at least their are 2 decent yardstick older grade 1 animals to compare her against.
                      Unlike last years renewal that had none except Supasundae, which told me nothing except that they were probably all not good enough to win a champion hurdle.

                      I think a good second or a win would enhance her credentials.
                      But like you said, these races can be very tactical and nothing like a champion hurdle.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        Sharjah running and to an extent Abacadabras means at least their are 2 decent yardstick older grade 1 animals to compare her against.
                        Unlike last years renewal that had none except Supasundae, which told me nothing except that they were probably all not good enough to win a champion hurdle.

                        I think a good second or a win would enhance her credentials.
                        But like you said, these races can be very tactical and nothing like a champion hurdle.
                        Yeah, I guess so Q.

                        I think she needs to win to be of a level of Champion Hurdle contender quality, and on that basis will probably back her for Sunday as opposed to the Champion Hurdle itself, with the exception of the early freebies I got on.

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                          Yeah, I guess so Q.

                          I think she needs to win to be of a level of Champion Hurdle contender quality, and on that basis will probably back her for Sunday as opposed to the Champion Hurdle itself, with the exception of the early freebies I got on.
                          She needs to beat Sharjah first time out of novice company !?
                          If she does win, I'd say it's the best performance first time up for a novice coming into open company since Sharjah beat Faugheen.
                          Can't think of a better one. in this division anyway.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                            She needs to beat Sharjah first time out of novice company !?
                            If she does win, I'd say it's the best performance first time up for a novice coming into open company since Sharjah beat Faugheen.
                            Can't think of a better one. in this division anyway.
                            Agree. Sharjah is a very good yardstick for all Champion Hurdle hopefuls. He's the modern day My Tent or Yours.

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                              She needs to beat Sharjah first time out of novice company !?
                              If she does win, I'd say it's the best performance first time up for a novice coming into open company since Sharjah beat Faugheen.
                              Can't think of a better one. in this division anyway.
                              Saldier beat Klassical Dream (admittedly he was stepping out of novice company himself but also finished ahead of Sharjah) and Sharjah (the year after he beat Faugheen in the race), stepping out of Juvenile company, which to me was more impressive. But even so, I'd have questions how wound up Sharjah was for that day, and likewise this time around against EIR. If he's not wound up properly for the race what does she have to beat? Some horses that likely all need 2m 4f?

                              It's just my opinion of her. I've not been as impressed as many seemed to have been, and that probably shows through from my opinion of the race itself. She needs to win it for me, and I think it is a very winnable race.

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                                Saldier beat Klassical Dream (admittedly he was stepping out of novice company himself but also finished ahead of Sharjah) and Sharjah (the year after he beat Faugheen in the race), stepping out of Juvenile company, which to me was more impressive. But even so, I'd have questions how wound up Sharjah was for that day, and likewise this time around against EIR. If he's not wound up properly for the race what does she have to beat? Some horses that likely all need 2m 4f?

                                It's just my opinion of her. I've not been as impressed as many seemed to have been, and that probably shows through from my opinion of the race itself. She needs to win it for me, and I think it is a very winnable race.
                                I'd be slightly wary that any of Mullins' could be undercooked this week given the previous comments we've seen about the gallop. If she's fit I'd like to see her win, but I'd be just as happy with a strong travelling performance before weakening out of it as though undercooked given what we know she might be. If the latter happens, with your prior beliefs, I wouldn't write her off just yet

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