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2022 Champion Hurdle

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

      You must be quite happy with that.

      Going the right way!
      yep ran through the line really well, I'd like to think there's more to come. Will need to go again to match Honeysuckle but doesn't need to find much more imo. Two horses left in the champion that have realistic chances of handing HS her first L. Appreciate it and Teahupoo. I like my chances with poo.
      Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival

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      • Going to be a juvenile reunion this race this season.

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        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

          I don't think we have anything trained here thats capable of picking Epatante off up the hill. Nothing British trained has beaten her in the last two Champion Hurdles and this years crop are worse IMO. A race fit Not So Sleepy gave Epatante a scare but Epatante battered him after blowing away the cobwebs. He's 10 now and just doesn't stand a hope in hell. On all known form Epatante holds Monmiral, Glory And Fortune and Tritonic (not just a little bit, but comfortably). Adagio is a relatively inexperienced 5 year old who I actually think will beat Goshen today (who won't go here), but if he doesn't his hope of beating Epatante is next to none. I don't think he's capable of running anywhere near 160's level which is what he'll have to do to beat Epatante given her mares allowance. Tommy's Oscar also stands next to no hope of giving Epatante 7lbs IMO. All very well doing your improving up in Scotland racing a load of 130's animals in 7/8/9 runner affairs, but this will be a totally different ball game and the elephant in the room for all these horses (barring Not So Sleepy) is they won't have encountered anything like the Champion Hurdle before, and that in itself is a massive plus for Epatante, as is the fact she tends to reserve her best performances for Cheltenham. These two factors + the mares allowance make her a 1/2 shot W/O the Irish IMO, and I wouldn't even be surprised with 1/3. She's brilliant value at 5/4, especially for those day 1 roll ups, and its not like she's 9 or 10 years old either, she's 8 and I think will finish 3rd/4th/5th behind Irish runners.
          Epatante is still 5/4 W/O the Irish with Adagio quoted in second

          Adagio could start now and not beat her. The rest above are dross.

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          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

            Epatante is still 5/4 W/O the Irish with Adagio quoted in second

            Adagio could start now and not beat her. The rest above are dross.
            I had 10/1 e/w on Tommy's Oscar in this market ...... and agree with everything you've said

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

              I had 10/1 e/w on Tommy's Oscar in this market ...... and agree with everything you've said
              He's the only one that appeals of all of them but I'm glad you agree. 5/4 will be gone but days end surely.

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              • Not sure how you lads haven't smashed that out the water yet the amount of times it's been posted...

                Hoping you do soon so I actually get a reasonable price on Adagio.

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                • Assuming Darasso ran to average-ish level, then that was prob an early 160s performance on RPRs from Teahupoo

                  Given race fitness, improving , etc......he should prob be second fav for this if so?

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                  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                    Not sure how you lads haven't smashed that out the water yet the amount of times it's been posted...

                    Hoping you do soon so I actually get a reasonable price on Adagio.
                    What would you consider reasonable, for a horse that got 3 lbs today and took a beating from Goshen?

                    His best chance of doing anything would be in the County Hurdle IMO.

                    Although granted if you're on about that specific 'non irish' market then it makes sense, which on rading back you definitely did mean
                    Last edited by Kevloaf; 19 February 2022, 06:23 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                      Not sure how you lads haven't smashed that out the water yet the amount of times it's been posted...

                      Hoping you do soon so I actually get a reasonable price on Adagio.
                      I'd place lay Adagio till the cows come home, no way near good enough IMO

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                      • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                        I'd place lay Adagio till the cows come home, no way near good enough IMO
                        Wont even run in it

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Wont even run in it
                          Yep, no chance. Epatante is 5/4 W/O the Irish and Adagio is 11/4

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                            What would you consider reasonable, for a horse that got 3 lbs today and took a beating from Goshen?

                            His best chance of doing anything would be in the County Hurdle IMO.

                            Although granted if you're on about that specific 'non irish' market then it makes sense, which on rading back you definitely did mean
                            Yea. Interest in him is purely in that market, where you could realistically finish about 6th and still win! Or maybe even a place market if he was really big price and there was extra places. To answer the question I'd want bigger than 11/4 though. Ideally 5s plus might tempt me, NRNB. He's not even second shortest of them in the main market anymore so daft he is here.

                            ​​​​​​If they've got any sense they won't actually try to win the race. And just ease him round to pick up any pieces. Think he's likely to do alright in that scenario and finish somewhere probably 4th to 6th.

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                            • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                              Yep, no chance. Epatante is 5/4 W/O the Irish and Adagio is 11/4
                              Thanks for confirming that Epatante price again ​​​​​​

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                              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                                Thanks for confirming that Epatante price again ​​​​​​
                                Going for 10 times today

                                I'm only going on and on because Sky have a habit of slashing these wrong prices quickly

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