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2022 Champion Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
    I don't even think he will turn up to the festival, Mullin's wasn't happy with going against Honey at the DRF first time up yet is going to do that at Cheltenham Could be wrong but we'll see..
    Yeah, I think the same
    Save him for April

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    • I take a different view and think 5/2 in the w/o Honey market (7/4 NRNB) is value. If AI was lining up tomorrow against Epatante, Zan, Quil, Tommys Oscar! etc. I’d be more than happy with 5/2.

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      • Originally posted by Morley Street View Post
        I take a different view and think 5/2 in the w/o Honey market (7/4 NRNB) is value. If AI was lining up tomorrow against Epatante, Zan, Quil, Tommys Oscar! etc. I’d be more than happy with 5/2.
        But you're taking 7/4 on that mythical race tomorrow, not 5/2. And about 1/3 on him making it the festival. That 1/3 looks horrendous value to me. Think the NRNB is the much better option.

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        • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

          But you're taking 7/4 on that mythical race tomorrow, not 5/2. And about 1/3 on him making it the festival. That 1/3 looks horrendous value to me. Think the NRNB is the much better option.
          I guess it’s all about risk vs reward and the make up of each person’s position in the race… should he make it and the vibes are positive, what price do you think he’d be on race day in the w/o Honey market?

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          • He can't be much shorter without a prep to be honest. Even with good vibes I can't see many wanting to take a chance on him at anything much less than 7/4 unless there's a few others that come out. I'd have him bigger personally and don't think there will be particularly good vibes anyway, if he even does show up at all.
            As you say it's a personal decision but it's an occasion where I think the NRNB is much better value than the antepost. Even if I don't particularly like either.

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            • Appreciate It's price, unfortunately is going to be underpriced.
              A supreme winner, trained by Mullins, and essentially the only one that has not had a go at the mare yet.

              It's supply and demand.
              One choice, for all the punters that want to try and get her beat and don't want to back her at long odds on.
              If you want a bet in the race and don't want to bet on her, then there really is only one option.

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                Appreciate It's price, unfortunately is going to be underpriced.
                A supreme winner, trained by Mullins, and essentially the only one that has not had a go at the mare yet.

                It's supply and demand.
                One choice, for all the punters that want to try and get her beat and don't want to back her at long odds on.
                If you want a bet in the race and don't want to bet on her, then there really is only one option.
                Nail on the head, we all know if she's A1 something has to potentially run to low 170s to beat her and this is his first foray into open company
                Opinion on starting price as you touched on it will basically become her to win by x lengths or him for the majority, 11/4 sp? Be almost as poor as Laurina in 2019.

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                • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                  Nail on the head, we all know if she's A1 something has to potentially run to low 170s to beat her and this is his first foray into open company
                  Opinion on starting price as you touched on it will basically become her to win by x lengths or him for the majority, 11/4 sp? Be almost as poor as Laurina in 2019.
                  As daft as it sounds - he'd be probably weaker in the market and have more doubters if she wasn't running.
                  He'd be shorter obviously but not as short as the current odds would imply.
                  I already have him as I backed on the exchange prior to the announcement, but if someone offers 5-1 NRNB with the recent scratchings, then I'd have another bet on that.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    As daft as it sounds - he'd be probably weaker in the market and have more doubters if she wasn't running.
                    He'd be shorter obviously but not as short as the current odds would imply.
                    I already have him as I backed on the exchange prior to the announcement, but if someone offers 5-1 NRNB with the recent scratchings, then I'd have another bet on that.
                    It's like a 150's Graded Handicap field below those two.
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                    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      As daft as it sounds - he'd be probably weaker in the market and have more doubters if she wasn't running.
                      He'd be shorter obviously but not as short as the current odds would imply.
                      I already have him as I backed on the exchange prior to the announcement, but if someone offers 5-1 NRNB with the recent scratchings, then I'd have another bet on that.
                      Ha, yeah I actually can imagine that... she goes out of the race and then he goes from being 'the obvious one' to doubted the most!

                      I suppose, it's actually like discussing the 'without' market, what is he in that now, 2/1?

                      Solid fav or not?

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                      • Fourth page this was on.
                        Shows what a bag of shit race it is this year.
                        Zanayhir looks weak on exchange, trading at 26, not much to lay.
                        It is not a market I've been looking closely at for a few weeks though and that may be normal for the exchange prices, but seems out of sync from the ordinary bookies.
                        Not much liquidity at all really but I expected him to be a little shorter.

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                        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                          Fourth page this was on.
                          Shows what a bag of shit race it is this year.
                          Zanayhir looks weak on exchange, trading at 26, not much to lay.
                          It is not a market I've been looking closely at for a few weeks though and that may be normal for the exchange prices, but seems out of sync from the ordinary bookies.
                          Not much liquidity at all really but I expected him to be a little shorter.
                          TIme to look at the without market again?

                          Teahupoo e/w 10/1 without before he runs this weekend?

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                            Zanayhir looks weak on exchange, trading at 26, not much to lay.
                            Not much liquidity at all really but I expected him to be a little shorter.
                            Looks OK Q, Epatante has been the buzz horse in recent days but nothing untoward in Zanihiyrs price…

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                              TIme to look at the without market again?

                              Teahupoo e/w 10/1 without before he runs this weekend?
                              I couldn't look any further than Epatante especially with Henderson saying she's back to her best. She has to be a stonking good bet. 7/2 and with NRNB.
                              Last edited by Lobos; 15 February 2022, 09:44 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                I couldn't look any further than Epatante especially with Henderson saying she's back to her best. She has to be a stonking good bet. 7/2 and with NRNB.
                                Listening to Hendo gush about one of his horses is pretty low on my list of tools I use however I do like her.

                                I'm overly invested in Tommy's Oscar - I would like him to be the best of the British!

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