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2022 Champion Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    4th page this was on.
    Shows how interesting the race is this year

    Entries for Lingfield are decent.
    Especially if Gordon sends St Felicien.

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards...2-01-23/801352
    There isn't a horse in that list that's good enough to give Sharjah a race.

    Don't give me Darver Star as an example. He's not.

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    • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
      Sky have the without market too.

      I’m starting to get cash on Sharjah

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      • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

        I’m starting to get cash on Sharjah
        Zanahiyr for me, 15/2 a decent enough price.

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        • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

          I’m starting to get cash on Sharjah
          If that was NRNB I'd take a stab.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            If that was NRNB I'd take a stab.
            Yeah.... having a little "hmmmm will Mullins bring him over, when its highly unlikely he'll reserve the form with Honey.... or keen him back and try and pick up some wins elsewhere...". Could they try him in the Aintree hurdle, its not like he'll come up against much and bound to get decent ground

            Will have a think but I think he'll come over in March

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

              If that was NRNB I'd take a stab.
              Saint Roi 14/1

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              • My Mate Mozzie 66/1 Non-runner no bet with bet365. stranger things have happened right?

                Gavin Cromwell when interviewed on RTV had a little grin when asked about the entry.
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                • Originally posted by Brooksie View Post
                  My Mate Mozzie 66/1 Non-runner no bet with bet365. stranger things have happened right?

                  Gavin Cromwell when interviewed on RTV had a little grin when asked about the entry.
                  He said the entry was because the Supreme was so strong … which I found slightly odd given a) Honeysuckle and b) that surely the Ballymore would be a consideration before the CH?

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                  • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                    He said the entry was because the Supreme was so strong … which I found slightly odd given a) Honeysuckle and b) that surely the Ballymore would be a consideration before the CH?
                    Yes that and also he said if you take Honeysuckle out of the race then it is a pretty wide open race. Maybe he's getting Espoir Dallen vibes. Apples Jade and Laurina were all the rage for that Champion Hurdle, both didn't run any race, maybe he has that going through his head. Does lightning strike twice with Honeysuckle throwing in a stinker, I imagine she will one day.

                    66/1 NRNB, if he gets beat easy at the DRF he wouldn't be going Champion Hurdle If he did win at Leopardstown then I'd say 66/1 would look alright. Worst case scenario money back in March. Well unless he runs no race and they still decide to go Champion...
                    Last edited by Brooksie; 17 January 2022, 11:51 PM.
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                    • Espoire D'allen wasn't a novice though, he was second season hurdler that had already ran in and won a fair few hurdle contests. Champion Hurdle was the only race he could have realistically ran in.

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                      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                        Espoire D'allen wasn't a novice though, he was second season hurdler that had already ran in and won a fair few hurdle contests. Champion Hurdle was the only race he could have realistically ran in.
                        Yep I get Espoir D'allen was a second season hurdler and he had plenty more experience as you rightly say, 6 runs before his Champion Hurdle as opposed to 4 runs for My Mate Mozzie if taking in the DRF. He could be completely out of his depth I get that, but I just like Gavin Cromwell's thinking that's all. The supreme in my opinion is looking about as hot as we've had since the Al Ferof year. Regardless of what race MMM runs in the jumping will be put under a lot of pressure. Don't quote me on this but I'd imagine you'd have less chance of being brought down in a CH, with the majority of participants already proven to have jumped at grade 1 championship pace, whereas many novices only encounter jumping at speed for the first time in the Supreme. I'd say in a normal year keep to your discipline, but the Supreme looks stacked and outside of Honey the CH is there to be won.

                        Going back to the bet, he's not necessarily my idea of the winner, but I can see the appeal of having him on side at 66/1 with little risk. He would have to perform well at Leopardstown for the entry to be taken seriously in which case I could see 66s clipped to 33s, depending on how well he performs maybe even shorter. You'd have plenty of options to trade out for a free bet with the luxury of money back if he didn't run.
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                        • Originally posted by Brooksie View Post

                          Yep I get Espoir D'allen was a second season hurdler and he had plenty more experience as you rightly say, 6 runs before his Champion Hurdle as opposed to 4 runs for My Mate Mozzie if taking in the DRF. He could be completely out of his depth I get that, but I just like Gavin Cromwell's thinking that's all. The supreme in my opinion is looking about as hot as we've had since the Al Ferof year. Regardless of what race MMM runs in the jumping will be put under a lot of pressure. Don't quote me on this but I'd imagine you'd have less chance of being brought down in a CH, with the majority of participants already proven to have jumped at grade 1 championship pace, whereas many novices only encounter jumping at speed for the first time in the Supreme. I'd say in a normal year keep to your discipline, but the Supreme looks stacked and outside of Honey the CH is there to be won.

                          Going back to the bet, he's not necessarily my idea of the winner, but I can see the appeal of having him on side at 66/1 with little risk. He would have to perform well at Leopardstown for the entry to be taken seriously in which case I could see 66s clipped to 33s, depending on how well he performs maybe even shorter. You'd have plenty of options to trade out for a free bet with the luxury of money back if he didn't run.
                          It's logical and imaginative placing.
                          He should be applauded for the entry.
                          Not like some trainers with their heads up their arses.

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                          • thoughts on Tommy Oscar for this. he was 5 secs quicker than jonbon today and still 40s with unibet. in a race with little depth behind the fav I think its the sort of profile that could outrun odds

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                            • Originally posted by fatherjohn View Post
                              thoughts on Tommy Oscar for this. he was 5 secs quicker than jonbon today and still 40s with unibet. in a race with little depth behind the fav I think its the sort of profile that could outrun odds
                              He's still 28/1 in the without market on Sky

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                He's still 28/1 in the without market on Sky
                                wish I'd checked that

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