2022 Arkle

[Odin]

Because Aintree is a viable alternative to the Festival, and if the rain came in March TTL probably wouldn't run. Therefore it makes sense to take in a good novice chase like the Kingmaker and then keep options open.

Yeah fair enough, I was just convinced they saw him as an arkle horse earlier in the year - maybe I was wrong. It now seems they see him as a pick up money where we can horse, which is fine - he's still an excellent horse - just different to the impression I (maybe wrongly) had

[Kevloaf]

Dennis O’Regan literally spunking over Riv D’etel for both DRF & the big one on FFP. In summary Ferny is a different level to BL and sees Saint Sam as biggest danger…..

Make of that what you will….

Literally

[Lobos]

They do see him as an Arkle horse but not on Soft. Simple as that. Drying G/S would really suit him.

[Pendil]

Willie Mullins used the awesome word for Ferny Hollow performance over Christmas (refused to use the same adjective for GDC). Riviere D'etel was getting 13lb that day and beaten 1 1/2l. RD has lost 4lb of her age allowance since then, but Gordon is saying she is getting stronger by the day. Even if she isn't do people believe that Blue Lord is within 6l of Ferny Hollow potential?

[Kevloaf]

Willie Mullins used the awesome word for Ferny Hollow performance over Christmas (refused to use the same adjective for GDC). Riviere D'etel was getting 13lb that day and beaten 1 1/2l. RD has lost 4lb of her age allowance since then, but Gordon is saying she is getting stronger by the day. Even if she isn't do people believe that Blue Lord is within 6l of Ferny Hollow potential?

Refused to use the same adjective?

That reminds me of the kind of Football headlines you get..... "Klopp refuses to rule out signing Mbappe"....

Tough to start a case based on what adjective Willie has used about his own horse affecting a horses chances in March isn't it?

[opatcho]

fakir d'oudairies went close to winning Arkle, was a poor renewal in term of depth

this years renewal last depth again, I was against Riv D’etel but her experience and form line with Ferny makes my top pick, despite losing the weight allowance

im not keen on blue lord, and prefer to side with experience of ‘potential’ which I feel is limited with BL

[Middle_Of_March]

What price do we reckon Blue Lord is for this at about 4pm today then?

I’ll go 11/8 fav. My mention in running of his chasing debut of being like Footpad jumping wise might be more realistic should he bolt up. I don’t think he’s a future champion chaser but I do think he’s a superb jumper and will win a likely below average Arkle.

The importance of jumping well in an Arkle cannot be underestimated and he’s in the top 3 novice chasers for his jumping this season imo. Other two would be GDC and Bravemansgame who are also superb at jumping the fences imo.

[Carnage at Taunton]

What price do we reckon Blue Lord is for this at about 4pm today then?

I’ll go 11/8 fav. My mention in running of his chasing debut of being like Footpad jumping wise might be more realistic should he bolt up. I don’t think he’s a future champion chaser but I do think he’s a superb jumper and will win a likely below average Arkle.

The importance of jumping well in an Arkle cannot be underestimated and he’s in the top 3 novice chasers for his jumping this season imo. Other two would be GDC and Bravemansgame who are also superb at jumping the fences imo.

Hope you are right, he’s certainly a good jumper thus far

[jack1092]

Yes, but she gets an allowance....so if as good as 5 year old boys without it, then she can compete with older horses

Sorry, not sure how to explain it better

I sill prefer BL and Edward tho personally

There's little evidence to suggest she's better than the 5yo boys without it though? That's what i don't get.

Any form that suggests she's as good as the 5yo boys is with an allowance. She's a mare.

[Benjy23]

I've decided Blue Lord has to be a bet today, if you fancy him for Cheltenham. Drifted to a very fair price now, not even favourite. I've got involved. Double heartbreak if he doesn't go well.

[Istabraq]

I've decided Blue Lord has to be a bet today, if you fancy him for Cheltenham. Drifted to a very fair price now, not even favourite. I've got involved. Double heartbreak if he doesn't go well.

I've been desperate to back Haut en Coleurs for something (Cheltenham) all season but have been given little confidence where his target will be.
I've backed him 3 places today and wouldn't be completely shocked if he goes close, my problem is that after a good run and the likely mention of a target in post race interviews his price will crash and he's not exactly value at the moment at 8/1 without NRNB and 5/1 with NRNB for the Arkle, and 14/1 without, 8/1 with for the Turners.
He's probably a horse I just have to accept I'll miss the price/value and have to get stuck into on the day...

[Benjy23]

I've been desperate to back Haut en Coleurs for something (Cheltenham) all season but have been given little confidence where his target will be.
I've backed him 3 places today and wouldn't be completely shocked if he goes close, my problem is that after a good run and the likely mention of a target in post race interviews his price will crash and he's not exactly value at the moment at 8/1 without NRNB and 5/1 with NRNB for the Arkle, and 14/1 without, 8/1 with for the Turners.
He's probably a horse I just have to accept I'll miss the price/value and have to get stuck into on the day...

Aye, if you think he'll go close here or Cheltenham Arkle then today at 4/1 got to be a much better bet than 5/1 for Cheltenham. As much as a lot of us like to wait until Cheltenham, the thought of missing out on a winner here and then still being beaten at Cheltenham is too much for me!

Even rolling singles probably makes more sense than the Cheltenham Arkle bet.

[Benjy23]

Glad I went for the bet today as well

Arkle still quite open, unfortunately.

[RoadToCheltenham]

Can't be the only Ferny Hollow backer sat here gutted after that!!!

[Brooksie]

If she jumps the last she wins I think.