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2022 Arkle

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  • Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post
    I'm with Riviere here. That 7lb pull will be the difference. Another reason why it is too much of a weight advantage.
    She couldn't beat Ferny getting 13lb. Maybe he's more than 6lb better than Blue Lord but I'm not convinced on the little evidence we have over fences. Think the limited evidence also makes the handicap view very 'guessy'. Most of them don't have marks yet because they've not run enough times...

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    admittedly the whole things a bit guessy. I'm just not the man to put that much thought into my guessing ​​​​​​
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    • I see the 7lb allowance talked about all the time as a reason that a mare is a good bet/likely winner for a certain race and I’ve always been baffled by the reasoning, particularly when all their back form is against geldings anyway, and they’ve been in receipt of the 7lb for all those prior runs.

      I don’t really get it?

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      • Bryan Cooper on Haut En Couleurs in the Irish Arkle

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        • Surprised to see Rachael on saint Sam. Expected Sean okeefe.

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          • Originally posted by ToniC View Post
            Surprised to see Rachael on saint Sam. Expected Sean okeefe.
            Her Arkle ride possibly with HDB not having anything?

            She picks up good spares from WPM, knowing her ability I can see why. Allaho, Sir G last year for him.

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            • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

              Her Arkle ride possibly with HDB not having anything?

              She picks up good spares from WPM, knowing her ability I can see why. Allaho, Sir G last year for him.
              Prob not planning ahead til March, when assume Henry will have one for Rachael......but only second start and prob wanted good schooling ride too

              Interesting how many rides, if any, she hets for Willie in March.....worked last year and he likes to use her when can
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              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                Her Arkle ride possibly with HDB not having anything?

                She picks up good spares from WPM, knowing her ability I can see why. Allaho, Sir G last year for him.
                Are you forgetting Magic Daze?!?!

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                • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                  Are you forgetting Magic Daze?!?!
                  Magic Daze and Coeur Sublime both poss....but no chance

                  Remember Willie talking about his team for last year and including Rachael.....not sure what Henry thought......so sure she will get rides for him....but doubt any good as SG and Allaho....was strange year last with Covid

                  If Saint Sam wins, then surely Paul rides him at Chelt anyway
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                  • We always talk about 5 year olds having big disadvantage in Champion Hurdle....but surely same applies in Arkle without weight allowance

                    The exception is from Riviere as a mare....and top mares often nearly as good as geldings (as Honeysuckle shows)....so in effect her mares allowance brings her back into it

                    Saint Sam and Haut En Colours need to improve a stone to win Arkle too

                    For me....main contenders have to be Blue Lord, Edwardstone, Riviere and TTL (if runs) in that order
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                    • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                      Are you forgetting Magic Daze?!?!
                      I did actually haha!

                      Forget that, anyway she’s picked up a decent spare, moving on.

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                      • For me....main contenders have to be Blue Lord, Edwardstone, Riviere and TTL (if runs) in that order

                        Agree that the Arkle winner will come from those. I was thinking of adding to my rather sad looking Arkle portfolio so had a really good study of the Irish Arkle race but just can't come up with one to topple Blue Lord. I think he'll win easily at the weekend.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                          For me....main contenders have to be Blue Lord, Edwardstone, Riviere and TTL (if runs) in that order

                          Agree that the Arkle winner will come from those. I was thinking of adding to my rather sad looking Arkle portfolio so had a really good study of the Irish Arkle race but just can't come up with one to topple Blue Lord. I think he'll win easily at the weekend.
                          Riviere def has chance given run against Ferny.....strictly is ahead of BL on ratings

                          Not sure would hold for Cheltenham, but not impossible Rachael manages to put Paul in a pocket at the wrong point in race....not like it hasn't happened once or twice before ....but really hoping BL wins easily....been my main Arkle play all year....Ferny was a close second and still getting over that

                          Have an emotional attachment to Edwardstone having been to yard just before the run that put him in picture,....but English form ???
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                          • Third Time Lucki is fine and may even go to Warwick for the Kingmaker.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                              For me....main contenders have to be Blue Lord, Edwardstone, Riviere and TTL (if runs) in that order

                              Agree that the Arkle winner will come from those. I was thinking of adding to my rather sad looking Arkle portfolio so had a really good study of the Irish Arkle race but just can't come up with one to topple Blue Lord. I think he'll win easily at the weekend.

                              …Blue Lord 6-1 to win Irish Arkle & a/r with Hills.

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                              • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
                                Third Time Lucki is fine and may even go to Warwick for the Kingmaker.
                                Bonjers........I love you. Great bit of news. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

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