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2022 Arkle

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  • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
    Can’t see appreciate it entered in anything, not the beginners on the 27th!

    Something isn’t right!
    If he's still sound (fingers crossed for everyone he is) how long will they leave it to still go chasing this season?

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    • Originally posted by ToniC View Post

      Believe they’d earmarked the beginners chase on the 27th for him, something definitely not right I’d say
      Yip, very tempted to cash everything before losing it all!

      Beginners at Limerick or Leopardstown not entered in either. Also no hurdle entries either if they thought about staying over them. Unless he gets fired at the Matheson.

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      • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
        On Appreciate it from Irishracing

        "There is a two mile chase next week for Appreciate It at Fairyhouse but because it is on the inside track and because it has been so dry, we have to decide do we wait and go to Christmas or not. There is a beginners chase in Leopardstown over Christmas and you wouldn't mind winning either but we'll see."
        Posted on Dec 5th. Has to be some concern now?

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        • No Appreciate It entry to be seen, surely this would either indicate a setback of some kind (hopefully not) or the fact Mullins has entered Ferny in a grade 1 over 2m that he is his #1 Arkle horse. Intriguing development either way!

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          • Aye, initial concern for AI but not much reaction on exchanges so I'm still unsure.

            Riviere still in so gonna chance her now. Reckon she'll go off fav.

            ​​​​​​
            ​​​​​​Be a good week for Blue Lord's hopes in the Arkle imo

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            • Very worried about Appreciate It now. Mullins either enters him in the 2 1/2 mile Beginners at Leopardstown on the 28th or he isn't out over Christmas in a chases. That would be a huge pointer to where he will go to at the fest if he does go in that race.

              Beyond Christmas there are only 4 Beginners Chases over 2m /2.1m before March and one of them he isn't eligible to run in:
              9/1/22 Fairyhouse
              15/1/22 Fairyhouse (Not eligible)
              27/1/22 Gowran Park
              10/2/22 Thurles

              I can't see him starting him off up in grade now either

              Surely its very unlikely he come's here now with just the 3 options and one of them being mid Feb?

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              • I know its not ideal but he did start Cilaos Emery out on 27th Jan and we all know the Arkle was his after that run so it's not too late if he is getting close to being ready.

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                • I wouldn't worry just yet. Mullins said they will go to the beginners chase on 27th, probably to leaopardstown where they are watering. Seen as they have been very keen to make sure he starts on suitable ground and the course still watering I would imagine it's a ground issue again. Though that's just my opinion.

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                  • Originally posted by Big Chac View Post
                    I wouldn't worry just yet. Mullins said they will go to the beginners chase on 27th, probably to leaopardstown where they are watering. Seen as they have been very keen to make sure he starts on suitable ground and the course still watering I would imagine it's a ground issue again. Though that's just my opinion.
                    You'd hope so but normally he would enter the horse and then not declare him like he has done a few times this season when he's pulled him out due to the ground.

                    Even without all that, this isn't the best prep at all

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                    • Originally posted by Big Chac View Post
                      I wouldn't worry just yet. Mullins said they will go to the beginners chase on 27th, probably to leaopardstown where they are watering. Seen as they have been very keen to make sure he starts on suitable ground and the course still watering I would imagine it's a ground issue again. Though that's just my opinion.
                      Agree about that but as we know mullins block entered everything and he’s no entry at any track over the 2 days.

                      He could well be just leaving him until later but no news and no entries has you wondering.

                      I’ve cashed my pp bets just in case and kept my 365 bets.

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                      • https://youtu.be/PYpsEb59zi4?t=486 Mick Fitzgerald says at this timestamp on skys christmas racing preview that hes spoken to Ruby and Patrick on whats going on with appreciate it and say hes ready to run on the 27th or the 28th

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                        • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
                          https://youtu.be/PYpsEb59zi4?t=486 Mick Fitzgerald says at this timestamp on skys christmas racing preview that hes spoken to Ruby and Patrick on whats going on with appreciate it and say hes ready to run on the 27th or the 28th
                          Marsh it is then if starting in the beginners on the 28th over 2 1/2 miles

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                          • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                            Marsh it is then if starting in the beginners on the 28th over 2 1/2 miles
                            I suspect the main ambition is to get him out but looks strange he misses the 2m Beginners earlier in the week and then turns up for this?

                            Whilst Willie doesn't tie his horses to trips particularly first time up then surely if there is a temptation to split Ferny and Appreciate It up then Ferny bagging a Grade 1 over 2m and AI starting over 2.5m... rather shows their hands. If that did happen I could no longer countenance the AI Arkle and Ferny Marsh, that would seem highly unlikely unless they lost.

                            Guess the main thing is to get the entry tomorrow. But I'm starting to wonder....

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                            • Id be a little bit surprised if ferny actually beats riviere detel in the grade 1 giving all that weight

                              His jumping will need to have improved plenty

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                              • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
                                https://youtu.be/PYpsEb59zi4?t=486 Mick Fitzgerald says at this timestamp on skys christmas racing preview that hes spoken to Ruby and Patrick on whats going on with appreciate it and say hes ready to run on the 27th or the 28th
                                I'd be wary of when this was recorded (i'e before he was not entered in the race on the 27th)
                                It would be a strange Mullins decision to not enter for the race on Monday and only the one the day after.

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