2022 Arkle

[Birds Nest]

There is no way he said that publically prior to the festival, surely?

Not that I don't believe he may have said it, but would he have given that away? I doubt it?

I suppose maybe when Vautour had been beaten and UDS had looked good?

Still, I just can't imagine him saying it before the races.... and it'd have been highlighted on here (therefore I'd have remembered!)

Definately not said before the festival, thnk it was mentioned after Vautour had passed away few years later...

[Dandrew99]

Appreciate It to make his chasing debut on the 27th at Leopardstown apparently:

https://twitter.com/TheRacingJosh/status/1468560549894148102?t=f_ld1kLvSxZ1MTQOmMovCw&s=19

Personally a bit worried that he hasn't had a run this side of Christmas, would have liked an easy opener which I doubt he will get now.

[DenmanSacre]

Appreciate It to make his chasing debut on the 27th at Leopardstown apparently:

https://twitter.com/TheRacingJosh/status/1468560549894148102?t=f_ld1kLvSxZ1MTQOmMovCw&s=19

Personally a bit worried that he hasn't had a run this side of Christmas, would have liked an easy opener which I doubt he will get now.

Not encouraging, especially the excuse about the ground at Fairyhouse. Must be soft by now after all the rain there's been.

[Craigy14]

Appreciate It to make his chasing debut on the 27th at Leopardstown apparently:

https://twitter.com/TheRacingJosh/status/1468560549894148102?t=f_ld1kLvSxZ1MTQOmMovCw&s=19

Personally a bit worried that he hasn't had a run this side of Christmas, would have liked an easy opener which I doubt he will get now.

It’s just the beginners chase at Xmas not the Grade 1 so with so many already having runs it surely won’t be any harder a starting point or are you referring to the ground?

He needs it fairly soft as we’ve seen through his hurdle runs and lack of a chase entry.

[Lobos]

It’s just the beginners chase at Xmas not the Grade 1 so with so many already having runs it surely won’t be any harder a starting point or are you referring to the ground?

He needs it fairly soft as we’ve seen through his hurdle runs and lack of a chase entry.

If it's frosted or snowed off then he's totally buggered

[ToniC]

If it's frosted or snowed off then he's totally buggered

We’ve the common sense to just re-arrange for a few days later over here never understood why meetings are just lost for good when they have to be called off in the UK

[Lobos]

We’ve the common sense to just re-arrange for a few days later over here never understood why meetings are just lost for good when they have to be called off in the UK

Yeah, why is that.....??

[Saxon Warrior]

Yeah, why is that.....??

Ireland only race 3 or 4 days a week over jumps, so there are always blank days they can reschedule/slot full cards into, in the week or so after.

In GB we have multiple Jump cards every day, more so at the weekend, and no blank days.

To try and reschedule whole meetings, on any day in the week following, on top of two or three other meetings already full of entries/Decs/jockey bookings etc, is much more tricky, and therefore instead, big prize races are moved to new venues, in the following week, to preserve and run the main races.

GB is overloaded with racing, most of the cards lost are easily replaced by the cards coming up in the following week or two, and horses can enter and get runs much more easily than in Ireland.

Thats why only the big “lost” races are rescheduled.

[Craigy14]

If it's frosted or snowed off then he's totally buggered

Not really, beginners 2 weeks later Energumene ran in last year

Think we can agree he’s going to have 2 runs before Cheltenham now which isn’t a bad thing, not ideal, but I’m sure plenty have done in the past.

[Saxon Warrior]

Not really, beginners 2 weeks later Energumene ran in last year

Think we can agree he’s going to have 2 runs before Cheltenham now which isn’t a bad thing, not ideal, but I’m sure plenty have done in the past.

Energumene's Beginners Chase was 20th November.

The Naas race was his second, a tasty one with Captain Guinness in it.

With delayed season debuts they'll run where they can.

[ComplyOrDie]

Blue Lord & El Barra both declared for for Willie in the Beginners Chase at Fairyhouse at the weekend.

[charlie]

I like Edwardstone @ 9/4 to place top 3 as an acca/roll up leg. Of the three quoted ahead of him in the market, Ferny and AI presumably wont both go, and Bob looks to be taking on middle distances. In terms of field size, 50% of races in the last 6 years have seen 6 runners or less, so given the ante post terms of top three places, plus the price, plus his likely opposition and those that won't run, I think 9/4 is a fair acca price. He might not be good enough to win, but I'd expect him to hit the frame if the race were tomorrow.

[Craigy14]

Energumene's Beginners Chase was 20th November.

The Naas race was his second, a tasty one with Captain Guinness in it.

With delayed season debuts they'll run where they can.

Novice, beginners, tomato tomato I knew it was his second run was more the point of a 2m race 2 weeks later than Xmas.

[Istabraq]

I like Edwardstone @ 9/4 to place top 3 as an acca/roll up leg. Of the three quoted ahead of him in the market, Ferny and AI presumably wont both go, and Bob looks to be taking on middle distances. In terms of field size, 50% of races in the last 6 years have seen 6 runners or less, so given the ante post terms of top three places, plus the price, plus his likely opposition and those that won't run, I think 9/4 is a fair acca price. He might not be good enough to win, but I'd expect him to hit the frame if the race were tomorrow.

Very sound reasoning that Charlie, I’d never recommend a 9/4 bet on a novice chaser 3 months out, but the case you make is very solid, 5/6 runner race entirely possible…

[Lobos]

I like Edwardstone @ 9/4 to place top 3 as an acca/roll up leg. Of the three quoted ahead of him in the market, Ferny and AI presumably wont both go, and Bob looks to be taking on middle distances. In terms of field size, 50% of races in the last 6 years have seen 6 runners or less, so given the ante post terms of top three places, plus the price, plus his likely opposition and those that won't run, I think 9/4 is a fair acca price. He might not be good enough to win, but I'd expect him to hit the frame if the race were tomorrow.

Is TTL priced up to place ?