2022 Arkle

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33s non-boosted for Magic Daze available at Ladbrokes still if interested

[Craigy14]

Has Magic Daze been tipped up anywhere?? Into 16's with Paddy Power and others !!!

I’m sure they had her around that price (maybe 20/1) prior to her first run Lobos after the initial musings of the Robcour racing manager mentioning the Arkle. They also have grand jury a similar price for the Supreme when others are a lot bigger.

[charlie]

Interesting that Coeur Sublime has gone to HDB and is entered over 2m1f on Sunday. I wonder if Henry could aim him here?

[BigChaang]

Has Magic Daze been tipped up anywhere?? Into 16's with Paddy Power and others !!!

Magic Daze did win rather cozily by 25 lengths at Cork on Sunday Lobos . sure that would account for cut . bookies not taking any risks . .

[ComplyOrDie]

I feel like there is plenty of juice left in the price of Magic Daze, at 25/1 with cash out. I know she beat little on Sunday, but I think she a whole heap of improvement in her as she is still really lightly raced. Any comparisons between herself and Put The Kettle On would be unfair at this stage, just due to actual racecourse experience, which counts for plenty.

[Lobos]

I feel like there is plenty of juice left in the price of Magic Daze, at 25/1 with cash out. I know she beat little on Sunday, but I think she a whole heap of improvement in her as she is still really lightly raced. Any comparisons between herself and Put The Kettle On would be unfair at this stage, just due to actual racecourse experience, which counts for plenty.

Think the comparisons were always between Kettle and Gin On Lime. MD and Kettle have little in common apart from being trained by Henry and being girls

[ComplyOrDie]

Think the comparisons were always between Kettle and Gin On Lime. MD and Kettle have little in common apart from being trained by Henry and being girls

Yeah, I was just putting it out there as it's bound to happen

The other comparison that I feel is worth dropping in there are the prices, 25/1 for Magic Daze or 10/1 Third Time Lucki, I know which I prefer now.

[Lobos]

Yeah, I was just putting it out there as it's bound to happen

The other comparison that I feel is worth dropping in there are the prices, 25/1 for Magic Daze or 10/1 Third Time Lucki, I know which I prefer now.

Absolutely. TTL all day for me

[Kevloaf]

Absolutely. TTL all day for me

Do you think TTL has improved so much over fences that he'll be a better horse than Appreciate It?


The horse that's yet to jump a fence, could be as bad as the snooker table 'Josses Hill' for me over a fence and still be a better horse.

Third Time Lucki will never finish ahead of Appreciate It over obstacles. Fact (imo)

[Winging The Last]

No Dusart nor Mister Coffey declared on Monday

[Lobos]

Do you think TTL has improved so much over fences that he'll be a better horse than Appreciate It?


If we actually get to see AI and he jumps a fence adequately then no. TTL is currently in position A though until the big guns show their cards

[Istabraq]

If we actually get to see AI and he jumps a fence adequately then no. TTL is currently in position A though until the big guns show their cards

I make Edwardstone more of a runner than TTL even more so at 25/1 v 10/1...

[Atlantic Viking]

I don't know whether TTL will win the Arkle (probably not), but I do know it's rare in my experience for a 'wow' to be audible from a crowd when a horse jumps like it was last week at Cheltenham. I think he is, or was, the e/w bet of the festival as things stand/stood, I just can't see there being 3 better than him, the form is decent enough IMO. We know he loves fences, we know the target, the course form is in the bag, we know it's a race that has a habit of cutting up. He wasn't huge amounts behind Ferny or AI in the bumper and both of those are still to see a fence in public and probably only one of them comes here.

[Lobos]

I make Edwardstone more of a runner than TTL even more so at 25/1 v 10/1...

Not for me at all. Edwardstone wouldn't he able to live with TTL imo. Each to their own though.

[Lobos]

I don't know whether TTL will win the Arkle (probably not), but I do know it's rare in my experience for a 'wow' to be audible from a crowd when a horse jumps like it was last week at Cheltenham. I think he is, or was, the e/w bet of the festival as things stand/stood, I just can't see there being 3 better than him, the form is decent enough IMO. We know he loves fences, we know the target, the course form is in the bag, we know it's a race that has a habit of cutting up. He wasn't huge amounts behind Ferny or AI in the bumper and both of those are still to see a fence in public and probably only one of them comes here.

Spot on AV. Exactly my thinking and the reasons I've backed him when initially I wasn't a fan based on his hurdles form/rating. I too got that wow factor and haven't seen a round of jumping like his last two races from a horse since the Sprintre Sacre days. He looks a much improved horse for fences.