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2022 Arkle

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  • DJ says Dusart been schooling nice at Nicky’s and could run in a few weeks at Kempton.

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    • It's schooling time. Dusart is a gorgeous-looking beast and he is popped over five fences by Nico de Boinville, alongside Bothwell Bridge. You would swear they had both been doing this all their lives. Slick, neat and natural.

      Dusart is "a proper horse" according to Henderson and the intention is to start him over fences at Kempton on Monday week. It is obviously too early to be making silly comparisons but I do want to point out it is the same novice chase in which Altior beat Black Corton by 63 lengths back in 2016.

      Now, once again, I don't want to be getting ahead of myself but he is 25-1 for the Arkle. From what I saw in his, albeit snappy, schooling session, those are very generous odds indeed. De Boinville was effusive in his praise afterwards, and was very happy with Buzz too who jumped a few hurdles to get his eye in after winning the Cesarewitch.

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      • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
        It's schooling time. Dusart is a gorgeous-looking beast and he is popped over five fences by Nico de Boinville, alongside Bothwell Bridge. You would swear they had both been doing this all their lives. Slick, neat and natural.

        Dusart is "a proper horse" according to Henderson and the intention is to start him over fences at Kempton on Monday week. It is obviously too early to be making silly comparisons but I do want to point out it is the same novice chase in which Altior beat Black Corton by 63 lengths back in 2016.

        Now, once again, I don't want to be getting ahead of myself but he is 25-1 for the Arkle. From what I saw in his, albeit snappy, schooling session, those are very generous odds indeed. De Boinville was effusive in his praise afterwards, and was very happy with Buzz too who jumped a few hurdles to get his eye in after winning the Cesarewitch.
        the race he won with Shishkin aswell then :/

        Annoying how lately Nicky hypes up everything though, tough one to assess.

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        • Am I right in assuming the only allowance for Riviere in the Arkle is the 7lb mares?

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          • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
            Am I right in assuming the only allowance for Riviere in the Arkle is the 7lb mares?
            Yes it will be mate

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            • Could've sworn Nicky was pretty adamant Dusart was a 2.5miler in one of his stable tours, but can't find the quote for the life of me now. Closest thing I can find is this from the Sporting Life website:

              He was very unlucky last year. He won his first start very impressively and I think at the time everybody thought it was a good race. Then he had a horrific accident where he staked himself, he was lucky to survive. To get him back last season was even more miraculous. I probably should have gone 2m4f at Aintree. I’m not saying he would have won, but he would have found it easier. I’m sure he learned a lot at Aintree, he ran a very good race over a trip that was definitely too short for him.

              At the moment, we’re inclined to stay over hurdles and just see where he can go. He’s only had two runs in his life, so it would be quite tough to be going straight over fences. He looks fantastic and he schools really well. He’s quite forward so we just need a bit of rain.

              Really thought there was a more clear quote than that, but could be my foggy memory. Obviously can't take these things as gospel anyway, but worth keeping in mind.

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              • Originally posted by Our_Duke View Post
                He does jump very well. Unless he learns to settle though I'm not even sure he would place. I don't think there's much left in the tank myself - there wouldn't have been much between him and Captain Tom Cat imo
                That’s exactly what I thought,

                Captain Tom Cat gave 3TL 2lbs and was coming back at him at the last, I’m not sure there are many lbs between those two.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • Riviere won nicely but wasnt a fav of her jumping, often snatched to the right on landing, and i'm sure she's switching strides as she goes into the fence - tendency to hang right
                  Lay if and when this goes left handed

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                  • Originally posted by Our_Duke View Post
                    He does jump very well. Unless he learns to settle though I'm not even sure he would place. I don't think there's much left in the tank myself - there wouldn't have been much between him and Captain Tom Cat imo
                    Not sure he needs to settle/run any differently to get the best of them off the bridle given the same conditions in March. By the time he starts to run out of gas he'd most likely have blown the opposition away. I'd only see an issue in Soft conditions. He is a proper speedster. Very impressed by him the last two runs.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      Not sure he needs to settle/run any differently to get the best of them off the bridle given the same conditions in March. By the time he starts to run out of gas he'd most likely have blown the opposition away. I'd only see an issue in Soft conditions. He is a proper speedster. Very impressed by him the last two runs.
                      I feel like there's some overestimating of the horses he is facing. To me, he's beating horses who would never make the Arkle, and doing so reasonably well (much less so today). How much do you feel he would have beaten CTC? And where do you think CTC would place in most Arkle's?

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                      • Originally posted by Our_Duke View Post

                        I feel like there's some overestimating of the horses he is facing. To me, he's beating horses who would never make the Arkle, and doing so reasonably well (much less so today). How much do you feel he would have beaten CTC? And where do you think CTC would place in most Arkle's?
                        Nothing about who he is beating for me. All about the way he travels, jumps and puts the race to bed very easily and early. He's got a serious engine.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Nothing about who he is beating for me. All about the way he travels, jumps and puts the race to bed very easily and early. He's got a serious engine.
                          It could be that a better race sees him settle better but does it not worry you that he doesn't seem to find much? I think when he faces a couple of horses who can keep up with him from the 3rd last, he'll be left behind thereafter.

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                          • Originally posted by Our_Duke View Post

                            It could be that a better race sees him settle better but does it not worry you that he doesn't seem to find much? I think when he faces a couple of horses who can keep up with him from the 3rd last, he'll be left behind thereafter.
                            Doesn't need to settle imo. Its how he runs and the reason he gets the others into deep trouble very early on. They are all having to work really hard just to hang onto to his coat tail whilst he just cruises along piling it on up front. Not sure many will ge able to lie up with him. If they can then I'll really look forward to it.

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                            • If Appreciate It runs how he did in the Supreme last year, TTL and him could get at it very early on. With Appreciate It’s cruising speed though, I wonder if he’d be happy enough sitting in behind and waiting to burn him off up the hill … still need to see AI jump a fence though!

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                              • Yup, still need to see AI jump a fence.
                                Need to remember, the 2 mile novice division is weak. Proper weak. Had jack all in the supreme and our what looks to be GB's best 2 miler hurdler missed out on the County.
                                So, we're likely going to see TTL win races over here

                                AI will probably have the same issue unless he bumps into FH or BO at some point.... which I doubt

                                I feel, come March, we'll be re-watching races to see who jumps best as there wont be much form lines to go off. Tbh, the Arkle tends to be like that given the way most are campaigned and the size of the field turning up on the day

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