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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
It looks a hot looking race for this time of year. I'd be worried it might be too testing for GOL if the expected weather arrives. They'll look after her though.
Fan De Blues also has a 6lb penalty.
Fancy Foundations has a 3lb penalty."Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".
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Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
If she won this race on Sunday (carrying a 6lb penalty) against that field then she is a very good Mare, and would probably rate 145+.
Fan De Blues also has a 6lb penalty.
Fancy Foundations has a 3lb penalty.
Looks an obvious runner for Cheltenham in 3 weeks then the festival.
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Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
If she won this race on Sunday (carrying a 6lb penalty) against that field then she is a very good Mare, and would probably rate 145+.
Fan De Blues also has a 6lb penalty.
Fancy Foundations has a 3lb penalty.
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Originally posted by Quevega View Post
Has Fancy been priced up anywhere for the NH chase.
Looks an obvious runner for Cheltenham in 3 weeks then the festival.
But Cheltenham October meeting does have a 2M4F Novice Chase and a 3M Novice Chase, so I have tracked the horse and waiting for further evidence of what he is.
Gordon has won the 2M4F Novice Chase at Cheltenham in October twice, as well as having a NHC train journey running through the 3M Novice Chase.
Cant see Fancy priced up anywhere for the NHC at the moment, that’s probably no surprise, as Fat Jockey have become far more aware of Elliotts race planning than probably anyone/anywhere else.
Sitting and waiting to pounce if he were to win and then go to the 3M at Cheltenham, not the 2M4F.
In the meantime I am happy to have no priced for the NHC quoted, and him be under radar, behind several fancied stablemates for that Festival race.
I believe he is owned by British folk and Gordon tries to get runs over here for the horse so they can attend, that’s why he went to Hereford and Ayr last season.
"Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".
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Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
Gordon said he would be going to the October meeting after his last win.
But Cheltenham October meeting does have a 2M4F Novice Chase and a 3M Novice Chase, so I have tracked the horse and waiting for further evidence of what he is.
Gordon has won the 2M4F Novice Chase at Cheltenham in October twice, as well as having a NHC train journey running through the 3M Novice Chase.
Cant see Fancy priced up anywhere for the NHC at the moment, that’s probably no surprise, as Fat Jockey have become far more aware of Elliotts race planning than probably anyone/anywhere else.
Sitting and waiting to pounce if he were to win and then go to the 3M at Cheltenham, not the 2M4F.
In the meantime I am happy to have no priced for the NHC quoted, and him be under radar, behind several fancied stablemates for that Festival race.
I believe he is owned by British folk and Gordon tries to get runs over here for the horse so they can attend, that’s why he went to Hereford and Ayr last season.
Bound to be better over further.
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Just a nice placed run will do to set her up for the Arkle trial as per Kettle. Busselton Iooks to have everything in his favour doesn't he. He could be a Marsh/RSA type.
He is going to have to be better than he has shown already to get close in a Grade 1 at Cheltenham with no weight allowance.
Druids Altar has being doing the same for Joseph, getting big weight allowances, but performing better than Busselton, and has won twice since finishing 4th to Fan de Blues and Gin On Lime in a Grade 3, getting a stack of weight.
He is rated 142, to stablemate Busselton’s 132, and I haven’t read that Druids Altar is going to win at Cheltenham.
If Druids Altar was a Cheltenham Grade 1 horse, then Gin On Lime definitely would be, as she beat him 10 lengths, giving him 8lbs, and would receive 7lb from him at Cheltenham, 25lbs in hand on him.Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 3 October 2021, 10:20 AM."Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".
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Interesting that Robbie Power takes over on Gin On Lime. Not sure if there is any significance in the fact he also rode Put The Kettle On in this very race before she went on to win the Arkle trial race at Cheltenham ?
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Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
Gordon said he would be going to the October meeting after his last win.
But Cheltenham October meeting does have a 2M4F Novice Chase and a 3M Novice Chase, so I have tracked the horse and waiting for further evidence of what he is.
Gordon has won the 2M4F Novice Chase at Cheltenham in October twice, as well as having a NHC train journey running through the 3M Novice Chase.
Cant see Fancy priced up anywhere for the NHC at the moment, that’s probably no surprise, as Fat Jockey have become far more aware of Elliotts race planning than probably anyone/anywhere else.
Sitting and waiting to pounce if he were to win and then go to the 3M at Cheltenham, not the 2M4F.
In the meantime I am happy to have no priced for the NHC quoted, and him be under radar, behind several fancied stablemates for that Festival race.
I believe he is owned by British folk and Gordon tries to get runs over here for the horse so they can attend, that’s why he went to Hereford and Ayr last season.
Wouldn't surprise me to see him go well enough at Tipperary this weekend, and then initially being entered in both races at Cheltenhams October meeting to see what mark he is given, and go from there really.
I'm thinking along the lines of The Storyteller who run 4 times prior to winning the Plate, including a G3 Novice Chase over 2m 4f, the same sort of race FF runs in at the weekend, albeit at a different time of the season and course to The Storyteller.
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The Kim Muir if he can keep Fancy Foundations under 145, and the NH Chase if he can’t. I’d say that’s odds on the plan, with a mind to switch to the NH Chase if something goes wrong with the main bullets if he’s one of the Kim Muir horses.Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.
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Originally posted by Spectre View PostThe Kim Muir if he can keep Fancy Foundations under 145, and the NH Chase if he can’t. I’d say that’s odds on the plan, with a mind to switch to the NH Chase if something goes wrong with the main bullets if he’s one of the Kim Muir horses.
will depend on how rest of his horses fair.
Always a chance he puts a stamp (race) on him though.
Gordon likes to do that, as we all know.
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