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  • Kildisart dropped 1 pound as well

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    • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
      Kildisart dropped 1 pound as well
      Generous

      I see plenty of blue for him this morning/last night too.

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
        Generous

        I see plenty of blue for him this morning/last night too.
        That will be this - https://www.racingpost.com/news/late...-winner/424690

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        • Just in process of re-watching all races for things missed

          BIG RIVER might be interesting for this, or Kim Muir......finished well to be 4th in this last year after lots early errors (first run at Cheltenham so poss excusable)....25s for both NRNB

          On similar mark as last year.....and was well fancied at November meeting when PU, but since come back to form
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          • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
            Just in process of re-watching all races for things missed

            BIG RIVER might be interesting for this, or Kim Muir......finished well to be 4th in this last year after lots early errors (first run at Cheltenham so poss excusable)....25s for both NRNB

            On similar mark as last year.....and was well fancied at November meeting when PU, but since come back to form
            Flew home last year.

            If it was soft/heavy he would have a big shout, but he seems to get outpaced over 3 miles when the ground is better.

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            • Big River reminds me of Buywise.
              Will always be running on well at the end having been outpaced and outjumped.
              Not out of it though and if near enough could pop up.

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              • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                Just in process of re-watching all races for things missed

                BIG RIVER might be interesting for this, or Kim Muir......finished well to be 4th in this last year after lots early errors (first run at Cheltenham so poss excusable)....25s for both NRNB

                On similar mark as last year.....and was well fancied at November meeting when PU, but since come back to form
                I was a little reluctant to rule him out, but 6.5L behind the winner last year and 1 lb higher this time doesn't strike me as a win chance (at 10 years old).

                As a direct comparison, Lake View Lad was 3rd (so ahead of Big River) and is 1 lb better off this time, for being only 3.25L behind, and he's a bigger price too (although not NRNB)

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                • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                  I was a little reluctant to rule him out, but 6.5L behind the winner last year and 1 lb higher this time doesn't strike me as a win chance (at 10 years old).

                  As a direct comparison, Lake View Lad was 3rd (so ahead of Big River) and is 1 lb better off this time, for being only 3.25L behind, and he's a bigger price too (although not NRNB)

                  I have done both as love festival form.....specially for EW bets

                  It was the early mistakes on first visit to Cheltenham that suggested he might be several lengths better this time around.....not sure a winner, but can see both in it
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                  • Ah fair enough.

                    IMO he'll probably be 33/1+ on the day and potentially with more prices, so I'll hold on for now.

                    He won't get 'well backed' I wouldn't have though, given his profile and connections (all the better for us)

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                    • For anyone interested in Jerrysback, Hobbs has said in RFO today that his ‘main seasons target’ is the Irish National

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                      • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post
                        For anyone interested in Jerrysback, Hobbs has said in RFO today that his ‘main seasons target’ is the Irish National
                        Thanks, shame he didn't venture the information a little earlier.

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                        • On the Kildisart gamble. What makes people think that 3m+/stiff track/soft ground is his bag?

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                          • For me personally..he was the graded horse hidden in the handicaps. If the ground had suited him over the winter I am sure he would be entered in the graded races by now.

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                            • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
                              For me personally..he was the graded horse hidden in the handicaps. If the ground had suited him over the winter I am sure he would be entered in the graded races by now.
                              I agree with that

                              Looked to enjoy the step up in trip last year at Aintree and has decent form away from the handicaps

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                              • Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
                                On the Kildisart gamble. What makes people think that 3m+/stiff track/soft ground is his bag?
                                Well, personally, I'm hoping the ground dries out a bit for him, that's my only concern.

                                I can't have 3m and the stiff track posing any problems. His two runs over 3m+ with 'Good' in the description read 1-6, the 6th being his latest run on a flat track when never nearer. He has beaten the winner that day (Mister Malarky), previously, over 3m+ at Aintree on 'Good' ground.

                                He handles Cheltenham. His form reading 1-4, the 4th when staying on in last season JLT, over a trip too short, as shown in his next race when winning well carrying 11-12 at Aintree in a G3 handicap, over 3m+ (as above).

                                As have said previously, you can wipe any run with 'Heavy' in the description from the form book IMO, as he just doesn't act on it.

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