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Win Today & Festival ‘22

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  • Can't make my mind up on the Remastered one as on one hand if he comes out and wins he will clearly be market leader when we get an Ultima market. However surely if he does win it off heavy there could be a some exaggerated distance between horses and his mark for the Ultima could be blown apart completely.

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    • I thought that at first but there's been a couple of recent winners off big weights and marks in the 150s. It's not impossible, providing he doesn't win by miles or the handicapper doesn't do anything stupid. Not completely against the bet anymore.

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      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
        I thought that at first but there's been a couple of recent winners off big weights and marks in the 150s. It's not impossible, providing he doesn't win by miles or the handicapper doesn't do anything stupid. Not completely against the bet anymore.
        Yep and one of those trained by pipe.

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        • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
          I thought that at first but there's been a couple of recent winners off big weights and marks in the 150s. It's not impossible, providing he doesn't win by miles or the handicapper doesn't do anything stupid. Not completely against the bet anymore.
          If they win the race today, well.
          They are almost certainly going to go up in grade.
          Pipe mentioned the Gold cup yesterday.
          I'd imagine they'd try him up in grade before then though (something like the Denman chase or cotswold) so would depend on that.

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          • ….Hills have win today & a/r

            JWM 7-1
            Ciel de Neige 25-1
            Busselton 33-1
            Nina the Terrier 33-1
            Palmers Hill 50-1
            No Ordinary Joe 50-1
            Goshen 80-1

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            • Sky have added Belle Metal today + MNH @ 18/1. Not a huge price, though 16/1 is the biggest I can see her at now.

              Also American Mike today + Bumper @ 4/1
              Last edited by isitmarchyet; 18 December 2021, 10:21 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                If they win the race today, well.
                They are almost certainly going to go up in grade.
                Pipe mentioned the Gold cup yesterday.
                I'd imagine they'd try him up in grade before then though (something like the Denman chase or cotswold) so would depend on that.
                I wouldnt be backing a Win Today and a Fez handicap with a horse rated 146.
                Particularly one that looked like he could get up to a 10lb bump if he hadnt fallen the last day.

                Its a pretty narrow set of circumstances that get him a win today and a decent Ultima mark, and theres three months more to go, before that race, at least one more run? maybe two? so who knows what his mark will end up at.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • Originally posted by Min The Merciless View Post
                  Not sure if mentioned but Paddy's have the following for Saturday. Much better than Sky. All to win the Long Walk and Stayers.

                  Buzz 14s
                  Thyme Hill 16s
                  Champ 40s
                  Ronald Pump 50s
                  Paisley Park 100s
                  Nice one Min.
                  Thank you, much appreciated

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                  • …Sky have;

                    Sharjah win Matheson & top 5 in CH 5/2; & top 4 10/3.

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                      …Sky have;

                      Sharjah win Matheson & top 5 in CH 5/2; & top 4 10/3.
                      Not a price I'd take but that isn't a bad offering for the bet thats been requested.

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                      • Aye, to be honest I think both of those win. And are probably about the right price. Not taking them personally but there's far worse bets available

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                        • ….looking ahead, Sky have;

                          Sharjah win & top 5 CH 5/2; top 4 CH 10/3; win CH 14-1
                          Energumene & CC 3-1
                          APT & GC 9/2
                          Bravemansgame & RSA 5-1; & Marsh 10-1
                          Ahoy Senor & RSA 7-1; & GC 50-1 (in the NH section)
                          Ferny & Arkle 6-1
                          Dysart & Ballymore 14-1
                          Minella Indo & GC 18-1
                          Frodon & Ryanair 25-1
                          Chantry House & GC 28-1
                          Abacadabras & Stayers 33-1
                          Last edited by Eggs; 21 December 2021, 10:38 AM.

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                          • ….Sky have added;

                            Riviere Detel & Arkle @ 12-1

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                            • ….Sky

                              Klassical Dream; Christmas Hurdle & Stayers @ 9-1

                              Note; KD a best price 9/2 for SH.

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                              • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                                ….Sky

                                Klassical Dream; Christmas Hurdle & Stayers @ 9-1

                                Note; KD a best price 9/2 for SH.
                                Just asked to get that priced up but with Flooring Porter instead of KD

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