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Which horse for 2022 currently priced at 20/1+ havent you backed yet, but like?

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  • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post
    Can someone who knows more than me (so anyone...) about breeding tell me what they think of Bear Ghylls?

    I've just been looking over the novice chasers and I remember thinking that this guy has a serious engine. I think he will improve for a fence (can't be any worse than he is over hurdles?!) and he was only half a length behind Bravemansgame in the Ballymore, which given his pretty terrible jumping really wasn't a bad effort at all. If he can learn to respect a fence I think he could be a big player in the Novice Chases
    Goes to the RSA imo. He ran on up the hill from what I remember which bodes well.
    I have him in a requestabet and in a ew Yankee at 40/1

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    • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post
      Can someone who knows more than me (so anyone...) about breeding tell me what they think of Bear Ghylls?

      I've just been looking over the novice chasers and I remember thinking that this guy has a serious engine. I think he will improve for a fence (can't be any worse than he is over hurdles?!) and he was only half a length behind Bravemansgame in the Ballymore, which given his pretty terrible jumping really wasn't a bad effort at all. If he can learn to respect a fence I think he could be a big player in the Novice Chases
      Definitely needs 2m 4f+ but generally Arcadio's fall short in terms of what is required at the top level.

      If the Novice Chase was still around he'd be one I'd have seriously considered for that. He certainly looks to have ability, as you note, and he will most certainly need to respect his fences more than his hurdles. If he doesn't take to fences he could be an interesting angle for something like the Pertemps.

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      • Some trainers will tell you that Arcadios can have a bit of an attitude but there's no doubt that he has some good lookers. His best offspring seem to be most effective at around 2m4f but it's not an exact science.

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        • MIGHTY BLUE was third in the Mares Novice Hurdle just under 8 lengths behind Telmesomethinggirl.

          That was only her fourth run over hurdles and she was 5 - a year younger than the two principals.

          She's still a maiden and is 25-1 for a repeat show at the Festival next year.

          Back in March she was held up towards the back and moved up sweetly as they turned for home - she and Telmesomethinggirl looked to be going best of all by some margin.

          She was no match for the winner but plugged on quite gamely to the line.

          She was given an rpr of 135 which would have been good enough to make the frame in four of the six runnings of the MNH since its inception.

          Since the Festival she's been busy on the flat - running 5 times between 12 and 14 furlongs and winning once.

          She's entered for a Group 2 fillies stakes at Doncaster next Thursday and the Irish St Leger at the Curragh a week on Sunday. And she has another entry in a Group 3 at the Curragh towards the end of the month.

          Next exactly the best preparation for Cheltenham.

          But it was the same last season when she ran 7 times on the flat before embarking on a hurdles campaign.

          Mighty Blue is trained by Joseph and owned by a syndicate who must be living the dream with her.

          Unless she lands the big one this month I'd have thought the owners are certain to want another day out at Cheltenham with her next March.

          And although she'd probably have to improve 10 or 12lbs to win the MNH next March she's only got to post an rpr 3lbs higher than this year to guarantee she would have made the frame every time this race has been run.

          So anybody thinking of a big priced each way double or treble might struggle to find too many 25-1 shots with cash-out who have as good a chance of placing as Mighty Blue.

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          • Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
            MIGHTY BLUE was third in the Mares Novice Hurdle just under 8 lengths behind Telmesomethinggirl.

            That was only her fourth run over hurdles and she was 5 - a year younger than the two principals.

            She's still a maiden and is 25-1 for a repeat show at the Festival next year.

            Back in March she was held up towards the back and moved up sweetly as they turned for home - she and Telmesomethinggirl looked to be going best of all by some margin.

            She was no match for the winner but plugged on quite gamely to the line.

            She was given an rpr of 135 which would have been good enough to make the frame in four of the six runnings of the MNH since its inception.

            Since the Festival she's been busy on the flat - running 5 times between 12 and 14 furlongs and winning once.

            She's entered for a Group 2 fillies stakes at Doncaster next Thursday and the Irish St Leger at the Curragh a week on Sunday. And she has another entry in a Group 3 at the Curragh towards the end of the month.

            Next exactly the best preparation for Cheltenham.

            But it was the same last season when she ran 7 times on the flat before embarking on a hurdles campaign.

            Mighty Blue is trained by Joseph and owned by a syndicate who must be living the dream with her.

            Unless she lands the big one this month I'd have thought the owners are certain to want another day out at Cheltenham with her next March.

            And although she'd probably have to improve 10 or 12lbs to win the MNH next March she's only got to post an rpr 3lbs higher than this year to guarantee she would have made the frame every time this race has been run.

            So anybody thinking of a big priced each way double or treble might struggle to find too many 25-1 shots with cash-out who have as good a chance of placing as Mighty Blue.
            Definitely agree with Mighty Blue, But another one in the market who is around the same price who I like is Ashroe Diamond, no idea what happened in the 2nd bumper even though it looked like she was travelling really well until the final corner but the first bumper run it looked like she has a proper engine.

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            • Three Striped Life, Gerri Colombe and Hollow Games. Will get those on board at some point after my holiday to Lanzarote next week.........please God, let it happen !!!!!!

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              • Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
                MIGHTY BLUE was third in the Mares Novice Hurdle just under 8 lengths behind Telmesomethinggirl.

                That was only her fourth run over hurdles and she was 5 - a year younger than the two principals.

                She's still a maiden and is 25-1 for a repeat show at the Festival next year.

                Back in March she was held up towards the back and moved up sweetly as they turned for home - she and Telmesomethinggirl looked to be going best of all by some margin.

                She was no match for the winner but plugged on quite gamely to the line.

                She was given an rpr of 135 which would have been good enough to make the frame in four of the six runnings of the MNH since its inception.

                Since the Festival she's been busy on the flat - running 5 times between 12 and 14 furlongs and winning once.

                She's entered for a Group 2 fillies stakes at Doncaster next Thursday and the Irish St Leger at the Curragh a week on Sunday. And she has another entry in a Group 3 at the Curragh towards the end of the month.

                Next exactly the best preparation for Cheltenham.

                But it was the same last season when she ran 7 times on the flat before embarking on a hurdles campaign.

                Mighty Blue is trained by Joseph and owned by a syndicate who must be living the dream with her.

                Unless she lands the big one this month I'd have thought the owners are certain to want another day out at Cheltenham with her next March.

                And although she'd probably have to improve 10 or 12lbs to win the MNH next March she's only got to post an rpr 3lbs higher than this year to guarantee she would have made the frame every time this race has been run.

                So anybody thinking of a big priced each way double or treble might struggle to find too many 25-1 shots with cash-out who have as good a chance of placing as Mighty Blue.
                Yes agreed. She was one of the first horses I backed post-Festival.

                Returners have a very good record, and she is a very good returner indeed. She'll have a huge experience advantage over her rivals, and Joseph will be able to give her a nice break and bring her back fresh while the other novice mares are having to slog around on winter ground. She just feels like such an obvious one that hasn't really been picked up on.
                Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                • If she had a busy flat campaign last year aswell would that not suggest she is already a good bit more exposed than most returners?

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                  • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                    If she had a busy flat campaign last year aswell would that not suggest she is already a good bit more exposed than most returners?
                    She is rated high on the flat.

                    I tend to think Mares with that profile, either stay on the Flat or retire to stud.
                    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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