Which horse for 2022 currently priced at 20/1+ havent you backed yet, but like?

[Saxon Warrior]

Willie and his team will know the first thing you check when a horse appears to be travelling very strongly and then stops like they've been shot is their wind, especially when they do it more that once. He kept running him in competitive bumpers so were there a wind issue I'm quite confident we'd know. He could just be shit, that's another explantation, but I'd be reasonably confident that running at a more sedate pace over a longer a trip will suit him far better. I cant believe I'm justifying an Albert Bartlett bet that I haven't placed, in May. What a place

I don’t think in Ireland that a trainer has to declare wind surgery, so I don’t think we would know, unless they want to reveal it.
Ive never seen it mentioned on their racecards.

Youre right Charlie, re the Albert Bartlett. I’ve backed two already, which is nuts, I’ve never done that before.

The only justification I have are

* Some decent form or a promising profile
* Front line Irish trainers with Festival track record
* Big prices
* Cashout, an absolute must.

I wonder if those two bets will ever survive getting to Cheltenham and in that particular race.

Or, more likely, if I will try and cash them out, well before.

[Ribocco]

Bit the bullet today Envoi Allen 22/1 (free bet) with a boost at Paddy. Reason is if he rocks up in March he will be favourite.

[Lobos]

Bit the bullet today Envoi Allen 22/1 (free bet) with a boost at Paddy. Reason is if he rocks up in March he will be favourite.

Completely agree. No brainer bet at that price

[BigChaang]

Been Thinking about Gaillard Du Mesnil for the Marsh Nov Chs., @ 20-1 - ( coral ) , I've Already backed @ 33-1 for the Brown Advisory Nov chs.
Looked to me like he needed further than the Ballymore trip , But wouldn't be surprised if W.P.M kept him around 2m 4 f , And he may or may not Line up with Bob O.
Anyhow , added him today for the Marsh @ 20-1 with corals. ,

[Lobos]

Been Thinking about Gaillard Du Mesnil for the Marsh Nov Chs., @ 20-1 - ( coral ) , I've Already backed @ 33-1 for the Brown Advisory Nov chs.
Looked to me like he needed further than the Ballymore trip , But wouldn't be surprised if W.P.M kept him around 2m 4 f , And he may or may not Line up with Bob O.
Anyhow , added him today for the Marsh @ 20-1 with corals. ,

Think that is the way to go especially with Mullins having Gallopin Des Champs as well. I've done the same and also feel GDM would be more suited to the old RSA but no harm betting him in both races at the prices.

[Saxon Warrior]

There’s also Klassical Dream and Appreciate it to bring into the equation for WPM, alongside Galopin Des Champs and Gaillard Du Mesnil.

The best rated hurdler of those 4 quality horses, is Klassical Dream, and he is still only 7 - the same age as Appreciate It.

2M, 2M4F, or 3M Grade 1 Novice Chases for Klassical Dream?

He is best priced at:-

33/1 for the Arkle
10/1 for the Marsh
20/1 for the RSA/Brown

[Spectre]

After that Punchestown run connections will surely realise that the Stayers is a Grade 1 shoe-in for Klassical Dream, whereas they are back to square one in novice chases. I'll be amazed if they don't re-think plans and stay over hurdles.

[Lobos]

After that Punchestown run connections will surely realise that the Stayers is a Grade 1 shoe-in for Klassical Dream, whereas they are back to square one in novice chases. I'll be amazed if they don't re-think plans and stay over hurdles.

I still say he could be Mullins NHC horse. I know I'm on my own with this one but that's the only race I'd back him for.

[Saxon Warrior]

After that Punchestown run connections will surely realise that the Stayers is a Grade 1 shoe-in for Klassical Dream, whereas they are back to square one in novice chases. I'll be amazed if they don't re-think plans and stay over hurdles.

I too think he would be a great Stayers Hurdle fav, if he stayed hurdling and all went well.

But that doesn't lead to a Champion Chase or a Gold Cup, and they have far more prestige and money attached to them.

Most people don't ditch novice chasing with a top class hurdler to go for a Stayers.

Willie's words seemed quite firm on the matter, regarding Stayers hurdles, after the Punchestown win.

It seems that he will go novice chasing, and only go back for the Stayers Hurdle if Novice chasing doesn't work out.

The question is, which route will his Novice Chasing career lead towards?

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After race at Punchestown Thu, 29th Apr, 2021 (1st) unfortunately his owner John Coleman didn't live to see him winning at Cheltenham but Joanne (his wife) had his ashes in her handbag so, anyhow, up he popped in the winners' enclosure! . This win is fantastic for them as he is a family horse but missed a year. David Casey, who rides him at home, kept saying how well he was working and got it right.

Patrick was quietly confident all week and I was hoping for his sake he was right.

He could stay staying hurdling or go novice chasing — looking at the size of him in the parade ring, anyone would love to ride him down to a fence because he has a really good method of jumping.

Staying hurdling is very hard on horses and I'd rather go chasing and if it doesn't work out, he could always come back.

Paris (Auteuil) in June might call if we are allowed over there, as he has had such an easy time. James Du Berlais (runner-up) ran a cracker and is one to look forward to going over fences next year as well. W P Mullins

[Lobos]

Having missed a season, I think they'll Keep him going through the Summer, taking in Galway and send him Novice chasing . That's half the reason I think the NHC could be on the cards. In my book he's s thorough Stayer, always said as much, and Patrick is very keen on him. I think he'll keep on at Daddy to let him ride him at Cheltenham in the '4 miler'. Please don't anyone request a price just yet. I'm not ready to press the button.

[Saxon Warrior]

Having missed a season, I think they'll Keep him going through the Summer, taking in Galway and send him Novice chasing . That's half the reason I think the NHC could be on the cards. In my book he's s thorough Stayer, always said as much, and Patrick is very keen on him. I think he'll keep on at Daddy to let him ride him at Cheltenham in the '4 miler'. Please don't anyone request a price just yet. I'm not ready to press the button.

He is a 164 Hurdler (Irish Ratings).
Only Honeysuckle is higher (by 1lb)

It would be a weird world to aim his season around a Grade 2 Novice Chase.

I suppose the only way it happens, is if he loses in his pursuit of a mid-season Grade 1, or if other WPM horses mop up the Grade 1 Novice Chases through the season.

Even then, its more likely he switches to the Stayers Hurdle as Willie mentioned.

What price are you hoping to catch, for him, in the NHC?

[Lobos]

He is a 164 Hurdler (Irish Ratings).
Only Honeysuckle is higher (by 1lb)

It would be a weird world to aim his season around a Grade 2 Novice Chase.

I suppose the only way it happens, is if he loses in his pursuit of a mid-season Grade 1, or if other WPM horses mop up the Grade 1 Novice Chases through the season.

Even then, its more likely he switches to the Stayers Hurdle as Willie mentioned.

What price are you hoping to catch, for him, in the NHC?

He's had a season out and can been quirky. Perfect for a race like the NHC. He'll be the right age bracket, Patrick gets on with him, he'll likely be the highest rated in the race, looks like they'll start him off novice chasing. Unlike Gordon's runners who tend to have far more runs over fences, Mullins is quite happy to run them in the race in the same season as they start chasing with relatively few runs......Suntiep (who was very unfortunate not to win), Back in Focus who won and Lord Royal this year.

A huge price hopefully. Clearly it's a right outside of the box thought so he should be. Clearly if he ended up in the race he'd be fav though.

I'd say it's the luckiest race for me over the last 10 years with 8 winners and most of them at big prices. Maybe, just maybe, he'll be the next one. It's a long shot but that's what it's all about.

[Saxon Warrior]

He's had a season out and can been quirky. Perfect for a race like the NHC. He'll be the right age bracket, Patrick gets on with him, he'll likely be the highest rated in the race, looks like they'll start him off novice chasing. Unlike Gordon's runners who tend to have far more runs over fences, Mullins is quite happy to run them in the race in the same season as they start chasing with relatively few runs......Suntiep (who was very unfortunate not to win), Back in Focus who won and Lord Royal this year.

A huge price hopefully. Clearly it's a right outside of the box thought so he should be. Clearly if he ended up in the race he'd be fav though.

I'd say it's the luckiest race for me over the last 10 years with 8 winners and most of them at big prices. Maybe, just maybe, he'll be the next one. It's a long shot but that's what it's all about.

I recall someone hoping Appreciate It went from the Bumper to novice chasing and could win the NHC last season so its not the most out-there NHC tip we've seen, early doors.

[Lobos]

I recall someone hoping Appreciate It went from the Bumper to novice chasing and could win the NHC last season so its not the most out-there NHC tip we've seen, early doors.

NHC for Appreciate It ?! Who was that ?? I did think he'd follow in Florida Pearls footsteps though and go straight over fences in view of his age. RSA was my thought but got that horribly wrong !

I don't think KD going NHC is that wild. Mullins has lots of other options for the Arkle, Marsh and RSA. For me, KD is a proper Stayer. He was a Stayer on the flat in France and always looked one paced in his 4 French hurdle races. He just got up at Leopardstown and then He won a deep ground Supreme and was entered in the Stayers the year after. In his Punchestown win he came on the bridal late when everything else was rowing along. I only see him going for the RSA or NHC or switching to the Stayers maybe.

[Istabraq]

I recall someone hoping Appreciate It went from the Bumper to novice chasing and could win the NHC last season so its not the most out-there NHC tip we've seen, early doors.

I don’t remember suggesting it but that may well have been me.
Now the horse hacked up in the Supreme it’s easy to mock the staying chase opinions that may/may not have been voiced but I can’t imagine there were too many who saw AI as a Supreme horse last Summer, staying options are usually the favourite route for decent bumper (champion bumper) horses.
Plus we were in lockdown for months, brains became scrambled…