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2022 Handicaps

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  • Just a thought, year younger aswell. Be interesting to see him over 2 and a half, hopefully settles better

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    • Marie’s Rock has caught my eye. Described by Henderson in his stable tour as extremely talented and miles better than she showed last season. She was never put in the race at Wetherby first time out and stayed on well in the Greatwood on Sunday to finish 7th having been almost last 2 out.

      Looks like step up in trip would help and Coral Cup might be a long term target. Might need to go up a couple of lbs to guarantee a run but would be at bottom of weights in a race that Nicky knows how to win (won it with a mare in 2020).

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      • What she did on Sunday was settle much better than she has previously which has been a real problem so far. Now they've got past that I suspect we'll see a much better horse this season, and if so I suspect she's well handicapped.

        I think you'll find she'll be aimed at the Betfair Hurdle and then perhaps back for the County Hurdle. Henderson reckons she's a bang two miler which is why they haven't talked about the Mares Hurdle. Either that or they'll try and find some black type somewhere, but I think she'd need a mares only race for that. I think there's one either at Newbury or Cheltenham that would fit the bill, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
        Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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        • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
          Since the Gordon stable tour came out and mentioned Saint Felicien who I'm very high on, I know he didn't specifically mention a target but since he won't be a novice and is coming out of his juvenile season, I really do think he will be his county hurdle horse provided he makes it to the festival on a good mark
          Bumping this after the recent performance

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          • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

            Bumping this after the recent performance
            ….into 8-1 a/r with Hills.

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            • Au Fleuron makes his handicap debut and first run tomorrow for Elliott in 1.20 at Navan, race isn't mentioned in the Irish racing planner but looks like it's been downgraded from a grade 2 to a maiden novice hurdle this year.

              Ashdale Bob won it last year.

              Can see someone's already requested a price for it for the Martin Pipe, quoted at 33s, comments on ATR stable guide are that he's a nice horse but they haven't pushed any big buttons with him yet.

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              • Originally posted by Joeski29 View Post
                Au Fleuron makes his handicap debut and first run tomorrow for Elliott in 1.20 at Navan, race isn't mentioned in the Irish racing planner but looks like it's been downgraded from a grade 2 to a maiden novice hurdle this year.

                Ashdale Bob won it last year.

                Can see someone's already requested a price for it for the Martin Pipe, quoted at 33s, comments on ATR stable guide are that he's a nice horse but they haven't pushed any big buttons with him yet.
                Au Fleuron is racing in a maiden hurdle tomorrow not a handicap or a graded race

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                • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                  Au Fleuron is racing in a maiden hurdle tomorrow not a handicap or a graded race
                  I know, I said it's been downgraded from a grade 2 to a maiden hurdle.

                  Added in handicap debut by accident.

                  Turns out it was a race later in the season that Ashdale won that was a grade 2.

                  Was a maiden hurdle last year, Wide Receiver finished 2nd in it.
                  Last edited by Joeski29; 20 November 2021, 07:50 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Joeski29 View Post

                    I know, I said it's been downgraded from a grade 2 to a maiden hurdle.

                    Added in handicap debut by accident.

                    Turns out it was a race later in the season that Ashdale won that was a grade 2.

                    Was a maiden hurdle last year, Wide Receiver finished 2nd in it.
                    no it doesn't?

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                    • Originally posted by Joeski29 View Post

                      I know, I said it's been downgraded from a grade 2 to a maiden hurdle.

                      Added in handicap debut by accident.

                      Turns out it was a race later in the season that Ashdale won that was a grade 2.

                      Was a maiden hurdle last year, Wide Receiver finished 2nd in it.
                      No race would get downgraded from a Grade 2 to a maiden haha

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                      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                        No it doesn't what?

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                        • Originally posted by Joeski29 View Post

                          No it doesn't what?
                          replied as you edited your original post.. you mistook the navan maiden for the grade 2 afterwards.

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                          • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                            No race would get downgraded from a Grade 2 to a maiden haha
                            I know, thought it was strange, clicked on the wrong Navan race, realised by the time I was sending the 2nd comment about it, assume someone clocked on its the race Wide Receiver ran in last year and is hoping he goes down the route plenty of us hoped Wide Receiver would go down last year

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                            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                              replied as you edited your original post.. you mistook the navan maiden for the grade 2 afterwards.
                              Cheers, fat fingers clicking on the wrong race, only looked at it being Navan and not the date, I went through Ashdales races on RP, would have made more sense just to have clicked on the Sporting Life race history!

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                              • ….before the individual markets & threads appear, thought it might be a useful benchmark to list some offers available in Sky RaB section:

                                Martin Pipe;
                                Coqueline 12-1
                                Eric Bloodaxe 14-1
                                Chemical Energy 16-1
                                Dysart Dynamo 16-1
                                Lander Dan 16-1
                                Mighty Potter 16-1
                                Au Fleuron 20-1

                                Plate;
                                Shan Blue 12-1
                                Palmers Hill 14-1

                                Grand Annual;
                                Sky Pirate 12-1
                                Before Midnight 16-1
                                Edwardstone 16-1
                                Buddy Rich 20-1
                                Zanza 20-1
                                Cappuccimi 25-1
                                Red Rookie 25-1

                                County;
                                Saint Felicien 12-1
                                West Cork 14-1 (also listed at 12-1)
                                Copperless 16-1
                                No Ordinary Joe 16-1
                                Three Stripe Life 16-1

                                Pertemps
                                Riggs 14-1
                                Tullybeg 16-1
                                Mars Harper 20-1
                                Calva D’Auge 25-1 (also listed 16-1)
                                Dallas des Pictons 25-1
                                Folcan 25-1
                                If the Cap Fits 33-1

                                Ultima;
                                TBO 14-1
                                Fanion Destruval 20-1
                                Vintage Clouds 25-1

                                Kim Muir;
                                Aramix 16-1
                                Grand Paradis 16-1
                                Mighty Don 16-1
                                Fancy Foundation 20-1

                                Coral;
                                Zanahiyr 16-1
                                Dusart 20-1
                                Marie's Rock 20-1
                                For Pleasure 25-1
                                Last edited by Eggs; 22 November 2021, 01:13 PM.

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