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2022 Novice Chase Division

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  • Originally posted by Silverbirch View Post


    ​​​​​​Does Davy being on board TBO for Gord hold any importance in relation to target? (His only ride that day)
    Good education ride and he can tell Gordon more than most Jockeys how good he is and which race to target next.
    Last edited by Lobos; 20 September 2021, 04:48 PM.

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    • Bleu Berry franked the Streets of Doyen form very nicely today.

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      • Originally posted by Silverbirch View Post


        ​​​​​​Does Davy being on board TBO for Gord hold any importance in relation to target? (His only ride that day)
        I wouldn’t say so really, he likes to give both him and Jack equal opportunities, so would have an impact on a plan going forward. However Davy was stood down today from rides so we will see if he is available on Wednesday

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        • Could anyone see if they can get Ontheropes priced up for the NHC?

          I've tried and been refused every time as a "trader decision"

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          • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
            Could anyone see if they can get Ontheropes priced up for the NHC?

            I've tried and been refused every time as a "trader decision"
            I asked a few hours ago, I got that exact same response when I asked about Jon Snow on the same race a few weeks ago, 365 this is

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            • Could someone request The Bosses Oscar for the BANC too?

              I haven't had any luck with that one.

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              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                Could someone request The Bosses Oscar for the BANC too?

                I haven't had any luck with that one.
                365 refused to price him up... will try some others shortly, same for OnTheRopes Hurricane fly

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                • What do we make of 365 refusing to price those two up? It's not usual for them to refuse, and I wonder if there is a change going on behind the scenes.
                  Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                  • Hi ​​​​Zach​​​​,

                    Following a review of your price request, I can confirm that we would be happy to offer a price of ​​20/1​​ for ​​National Hunt Chase - Ontheropes​​.

                    To locate this price please select the ​​event from our Antepost section of Horse Racing​​.

                    Kind regards,

                    Dale R
                    The bet365 Team

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                    • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                      What do we make of 365 refusing to price those two up? It's not usual for them to refuse, and I wonder if there is a change going on behind the scenes.
                      I generally find it’s just difficult members of staff who don’t want to be bothered doing their job. Betfair is the same you just have to request at different times to deal with someone more helpful.

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                      • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

                        I generally find it’s just difficult members of staff who don’t want to be bothered doing their job. Betfair is the same you just have to request at different times to deal with someone more helpful.
                        This is definitely true. I worked for Coral for a long time and some of my colleagues would just tell punters that their requested bet wasn't priced up rather than call trading to get odds.

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                        • Originally posted by Lbur4288 View Post

                          This is definitely true. I worked for Coral for a long time and some of my colleagues would just tell punters that their requested bet wasn't priced up rather than call trading to get odds.
                          Completely off topic but having worked on the other side is there anything you can share with regard account restrictions/closures, anything members can do or shouldn’t do to maintain accounts ?

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                          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                            Completely off topic but having worked on the other side is there anything you can share with regard account restrictions/closures, anything members can do or shouldn’t do to maintain accounts ?
                            I’ve worked on the other side and they genuinely hate punters who bet singles, especially to a decent stake

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                            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                              Completely off topic but having worked on the other side is there anything you can share with regard account restrictions/closures, anything members can do or shouldn’t do to maintain accounts ?
                              We used to get promotions to send to "the best customers" (always picked by the higher ups, always the biggest losing punters).

                              As has been said, singles are despised so placing a lucky 15/yankee every now and then doesn't hurt.

                              Liabilities of over 1k are always looked at, they'll turn a blind eye to the accas etc but if you're sat on a single with a liability of over 1k then you're account will be looked at. It doesn't hurt to spread your bets around if it can be helped.

                              We would regularly be enforced to ban punters who refused to provide a proof of income. In some cases even when this was provided the big brass would still decide that the money to stakes ratio wasn't plausible (coincidentally winning punters a large proportion of the time).

                              There's not really much I could say that probably isn't already known. If you're placing a big odds bet then try and spread out to keep liabilities from being flagged, stick a few silly bets on that are likely to lose (long term it can be a win to lose as you avoid the restrictions). Don't only back promotions, boosted odds etc and try and mix up your betting.

                              Everybody is monitored in some form, there is a traffic light system for which all unknown punters are amber. Winning punters are red and obviously the losers are green. If an unknown is placing bets on boxing regularly and either nothing else or smaller stakes on other things then they think that it's a specialist bet. Obviously this forum we all build a book towards Cheltenham so again, throw a couple on other sports as a bit of a sweetener.

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                              • Thanks both, very useful, appreciate your feedback…

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