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2022 Championship Division

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  • No Betfair chase for Clan does obeaux this year..... Straight to King George without a run.

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    • Surprising, he usually comes on leaps & bounds for his first run.

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      • Originally posted by Stormez View Post
        Surprising, he usually comes on leaps & bounds for his first run.
        I think the run on heavy ground last year bottomed him out a bit. Surprised they aren't considering something else as a prep run though for the same reasons as you. I guess they would say there's nothing for him but no reason why he couldn't run over 2m4f as a prep...

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        • Went to Down Royal a couple of season ago before the King George so that must have been an option?

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          • Originally posted by Stormez View Post
            Went to Down Royal a couple of season ago before the King George so that must have been an option?
            Definitely could have seen that being an option... Potentially comes too early this time around/travel issues I guess

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            • He did Aintree and Punchestown last season, so maybe he was late in for pre-season and won't be ready for Down Royal. If that's so there's no point in starting him out early if Nicholls gets more work into him than he usually does for his seasonal debut.
              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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              • I'm intrigued to see what he throws at the Charlie Hall and Betfair this year with Clan supposedly being kept fresh for Boxing Day.

                I can't see him voluntarily throwing away opportunities at big pots when he's campaigning horses for the trainers title. In the unlikely event of the ground being decent enough on Betfair day, I'd be very surprised if Clan didn't line up.

                Will he go bold with Saint Calvados over 3m first time out? I'd probably expect him to go to Ascot in November for the 2m5f.

                Frodon sounds like he could go for Haydock, but I couldn't really fancy him there if it was to come up bottomless. Then onto Kempton, DRF and Sandown.

                Cyrname? God knows - you couldn't trust him at all.

                Next Destination is one I expect to be campaigned with Aintree in mind.

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                • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
                  I'm intrigued to see what he throws at the Charlie Hall and Betfair this year with Clan supposedly being kept fresh for Boxing Day.

                  I can't see him voluntarily throwing away opportunities at big pots when he's campaigning horses for the trainers title. In the unlikely event of the ground being decent enough on Betfair day, I'd be very surprised if Clan didn't line up.

                  Will he go bold with Saint Calvados over 3m first time out? I'd probably expect him to go to Ascot in November for the 2m5f.

                  Frodon sounds like he could go for Haydock, but I couldn't really fancy him there if it was to come up bottomless. Then onto Kempton, DRF and Sandown.

                  Cyrname? God knows - you couldn't trust him at all.

                  Next Destination is one I expect to be campaigned with Aintree in mind.

                  ….interesting to see if Greaneteen steps up in trip.

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                  • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                    ….interesting to see if Greaneteen steps up in trip.
                    He spent all last season saying he'd be a wonderful Ryanair horse, then puts down tingle creek and champion chase as main targets this year in OJA

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                    • Saint Calvados has been crying out for a step up in trip, and we know he acts on soft ground too, albeit he's proven he's pretty versatile now. Haydock's flat track also looks a good option for a step up in trip to me. Cyrname will presumably go to Ascot for the 1965 Chase now the 'experiment' is over.
                      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                      • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                        Saint Calvados has been crying out for a step up in trip, and we know he acts on soft ground too, albeit he's proven he's pretty versatile now. Haydock's flat track also looks a good option for a step up in trip to me. Cyrname will presumably go to Ascot for the 1965 Chase now the 'experiment' is over.
                        Anyone know why Rouge Vif and SC have moved stable?

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                        • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
                          I'm intrigued to see what he throws at the Charlie Hall and Betfair this year with Clan supposedly being kept fresh for Boxing Day.

                          I can't see him voluntarily throwing away opportunities at big pots when he's campaigning horses for the trainers title. In the unlikely event of the ground being decent enough on Betfair day, I'd be very surprised if Clan didn't line up.

                          Will he go bold with Saint Calvados over 3m first time out? I'd probably expect him to go to Ascot in November for the 2m5f.

                          Frodon sounds like he could go for Haydock, but I couldn't really fancy him there if it was to come up bottomless. Then onto Kempton, DRF and Sandown.

                          Cyrname? God knows - you couldn't trust him at all.

                          Next Destination is one I expect to be campaigned with Aintree in mind.
                          Next Destination is being aimed at the Betfair Chase and Saint Calvados to the Chanelle Pharma 1965 Chase at Ascot (20th Nov) according to Paul Nicholls piece in OJA.

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                          • Where is this Nicholls stable tour?

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                            • Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                              Next Destination is being aimed at the Betfair Chase and Saint Calvados to the Chanelle Pharma 1965 Chase at Ascot (20th Nov) according to Paul Nicholls piece in OJA.

                              what is OJA and where could I read it?

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                              • Originally posted by Dessie the great View Post


                                what is OJA and where could I read it?
                                Mark Howard's One Jump Ahead - available in paperback or digital. Updates also available via email throughout the season.

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