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2022 Championship Division

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  • It’s annoying that Oddschecker doesn’t give all bookie prices. I’d not realised BetFred are stand out 12s on A Plus Tard for the Gold Cup. I know winning for horses returning after not winning previous years renewals are uncommon. However, with question marks over this years novices coming through from either the Marsh or RSA, and not too much looking to come up from the Ryanair, I think APT has a good opportunity to reverse places with MI and is a valid EW bet at the odds. I’ve gone in.

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    • Originally posted by Garrison Savannah View Post
      It’s annoying that Oddschecker doesn’t give all bookie prices. I’d not realised BetFred are stand out 12s on A Plus Tard for the Gold Cup. I know winning for horses returning after not winning previous years renewals are uncommon. However, with question marks over this years novices coming through from either the Marsh or RSA, and not too much looking to come up from the Ryanair, I think APT has a good opportunity to reverse places with MI and is a valid EW bet at the odds. I’ve gone in.

      ….from what I can see BetFred are quoted as 12-1 on Oddschecker for APT.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        The last of the 9/4 gone on Honeysuckle in the last hour. Chopped into 15/8 from 9/4 with Betfred.
        Mind blowing she's that short this far out IMO. So many variables between now and then.

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        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

          Mind blowing she's that short this far out IMO. So many variables between now and then.
          Punters at least have confirmation that the Champion Hurdle is her target again and if she gets there unbeaten and in the same form as this year then she'll surely go off odds on. Agree though that lots can happen between now and then and even I won't be going in again at that price.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Punters at least have confirmation that the Champion Hurdle is her target again and if she gets there unbeaten and in the same form as this year then she'll surely go off odds on. Agree though that lots can happen between now and then and even I won't be going in again at that price.
            Yeh it's just a time thing. If the race were tomorrow and she cleans up on her way to Cheltenham as she did last year (and nothing else emerges) she'd be 8/11 and I'd wade into 15/8 big time like a lunatic, but so much can go wrong between now and then, let alone mid race, 15/8 absolutely stinks this far out and is an advert for bookies attitude towards risk and AP markets IMO.

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            • Have taken the odds about Mrs Milner in the Stayers. Brilliant winner of the Pertempts. Probably too high now to stay handicapping . Yes she has to improve a fair bit again to make the step up but the 7lb allowance will help and Flooring Porter was lower rated than her at the start of last season. 66/1 is worth the risk !

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                Have taken the odds about Mrs Milner in the Stayers. Brilliant winner of the Pertempts. Probably too high now to stay handicapping . Yes she has to improve a fair bit again to make the step up but the 7lb allowance will help and Flooring Porter was lower rated than her at the start of last season. 66/1 is worth the risk !
                surprisingly for me anyway Mrs Milner is only rated 139

                still plenty scope there for handicaps, even a bit of fiddling back down to the winning mark of 134

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                • not knocking your 66/1 or anything , that has to be of interest , i'm just amazed at the current mark which is still workable

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                  • Only going up 5lbs for hacking up in a Cheltenham handicap does seem generous

                    I just assumed she'd go up double that

                    A few non descript runs when half fit then qualify for a repeat bid will likely be the plan

                    langer Dan also looks on a very appealing mark, bolted up off 130 then finished miles clear with galopin des champs (who had about 20lbs in hand)

                    Yet is only 140 according to the RP website

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                    • A favourite of mine given I backed her very early antepost for the Pertempts! Can’t see a price TWAR on Hills or Sky for her, which would be preferable given the uncertainty of destination next year. Is anyone able to get that priced up?

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                      • Not sure Nolan is the sort to fiddle with her rating. Small yard. More likely to aim high to get his profile up I reckon and entice more top owners. The Stayers is fairly open imo so she could be one to improve and make the step up.

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                        • Mrs Milner was rated 129 in Ireland and allocated 134 in the UK last season , so 139 in Ireland now, you could say 144 UK, more work than first glance to get back down

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                          • Originally posted by The Fellow View Post

                            surprisingly for me anyway Mrs Milner is only rated 139

                            still plenty scope there for handicaps, even a bit of fiddling back down to the winning mark of 134
                            Flooring Porter won off 136 In December last year beating ...........The Bosses Oscar. Deja vu ??

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                            • Originally posted by The Fellow View Post

                              surprisingly for me anyway Mrs Milner is only rated 139

                              still plenty scope there for handicaps, even a bit of fiddling back down to the winning mark of 134
                              Looking at the BHA website, they give MRS MILNER a BHA performance rating of 144 for her Pertemps win.

                              That's the rating the UK handicapper will start from if she is entered over here agai
                              n.

                              Mrs Milner is rated 139 in Ireland
                              .
                              Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 25 August 2021, 10:06 PM.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • never mind the fact i have just realised that Cooper rode the guts out TBO in his final prep race getting that double figure rise, knowing full well he was riding Mrs Milner in the final

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