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2022 Championship Division

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  • I wonder if there will be a to win today and the gold cup price put up for envoi ? And Monkfish, for that matter ?

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    • Originally posted by Ice View Post
      I wonder if there will be a to win today and the gold cup price put up for envoi ? And Monkfish, for that matter ?
      I'm sure Sky will do one and Eggs will find it.
      On current bookmaker form it'll probably be about 7/2...

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      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

        I'm sure Sky will do one and Eggs will find it.
        On current bookmaker form it'll probably be about 7/2...
        It really is a sad state of affairs with these odds we're being given, it's like they don't want any antepost bets.

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        • I must have missed the law change that made it mandatory to have a bet 11 months in advance.

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          • Originally posted by archie View Post
            I must have missed the law change that made it mandatory to have a bet 11 months in advance.
            You are on an ante post forum Archie, its kinda what we like to do!

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            • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

              You are on an ante post forum Archie, its kinda what we like to do!
              Oddly enough, I can't find the words 'ante post' or 'betting' in the headings. What it actually says is,
              'Fat Jockey is a horse racing community....'

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              • Originally posted by archie View Post

                Oddly enough, I can't find the words 'ante post' or 'betting' in the headings. What it actually says is,
                'Fat Jockey is a horse racing community....'
                The horse racing community would be a dull place if nobody discussed their bets, odds and fancies for said races.

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                • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

                  The horse racing community would be a dull place if nobody discussed their bets, odds and fancies for said races.
                  Absolutely, but if you think a horse should be 10/1 and you back it at 7/1 because it's the best price available, it's illogical to complain about the bookies.

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                  • Originally posted by archie View Post
                    I must have missed the law change that made it mandatory to have a bet 11 months in advance.
                    I used to think that by having ante post bets, and especially mug bets and/or worse value that is available, would help keep an account active, suffice to say that theory is as dead as a dodo...

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                    • Originally posted by archie View Post
                      I must have missed the law change that made it mandatory to have a bet 11 months in advance.
                      I think the bookies poor prices are a legitimate subject to talk about on a forum.

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                      • Originally posted by Ice View Post

                        I think the bookies poor prices are a legitimate subject to talk about on a forum.
                        I agree with that but not in terms of it being a disgrace that brings the industry into disrepute. Paddy Power runs a business not a benevolent society and the word 'poor' is subjective here.

                        The point is that, if you like the price you take it and give it a puff on here. If you don't like the price, you can say why but there's no legitimate complaint against the bookies. I appreciate that many people make their own book and will sometimes take a price to balance the book even if they think it should be longer. I don't bet like that. In fact I hardly bet at all which is why my fudge factor for determining value is quite punitive.

                        Each to their own.

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                        • Think the 10's on Kettle will be all gone after she wins easily today. Most underrated horse out there !

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            Think the 10's on Kettle will be all gone after she wins easily today. Most underrated horse out there !
                            I can't believe she isn't favourite today, she's still massively underrated. Altior is up against it over two miles and she has the beating of the rest, imo.

                            I think I'll put her in a couple more multiples.

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                            • Pretty sure kettle gets beat today

                              shes not a rhythm horse
                              if they go too slow like in the champion then at least one of the two favs will beat her
                              if they go a strong gallop - altior wins
                              Last edited by Quevega; 24 April 2021, 11:58 AM.

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                              • If I had a worry with her it'd be about galloping tracks, she was beaten soundly at Leopardstown with no excuses. May well be that Cheltenham just suits her perfectly. Still put her in a roll up mind There's more to like about her than the others. Desperately want to see something big from Altior but suspect today will just be a step closer to retirement for him. The Dessie chase at Kempton was won by Nube Negra in very decent time though so there may be a valid excuse there on reappearance. Should probably just sit back and enjoy it with no interest but it's not as easy as that is it?!

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