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In truth I don't see anything getting near Honeysuckle and will be building a nice book again around her. I'm really surprised that 3/1 is readily available about her even this far out as she looks that far in front of the rest. Obviously anything can happen in racing but if she gets there safe and sound again and in the same form as this year then she'll be untouchable.
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Totally agree lobos and i wouldn't normally be backing at 3/1 this far out but she does look a class above, at the moment. Be nice if she was the 20's you got for this year's race again, if memory serves me right !Comment
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I suppose a good way of looking at it is if we had a race between Concertista v Shewearsitwell v Echoes In The Rain over 2 miles who would come out on top ??Originally posted by Quevega View PostComment
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Concertista would finish third of three in my opinion. She wants two and half and possibly more. It had crossed my mind that she may be a Stayers Hurdle candicate next season, but I'd imagine they'll come back for redemption.
Echoes In Rain won't want further than two miles at this stage. She looks all over a bang two miler. I wonder whether they may try her in one or two nice flat races this summer instead though. She looks the type that Willie likes to run on the flat.
Shewearsitwell is harder to weigh up. Willie was thought to be aiming her at the Supreme so he obviously thinks highly of her. That being the case the Champion Hurdle may be the route for her. That said she's bred to benefit for a step up in trip, so maybe she will go to the Mares. She'll be seven next Festival though so that'll come into their minds too given they'll want black type. She's the hardest to weight up, particularly coming off an injury lay off.Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.Comment
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There was rumours honey might be going over fences was there not? They were undecided which could explain the 3/1?Comment
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Yes, there was talk about her going over fences but i personally think she will be back to defend her title, it looks there for the taking. Well that's what I'm hoping, anyway !Originally posted by Olliemagern View PostComment
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What would they possibly get out of sending Honeysuckle chasing ?
Will be 8 next March and likely to bump into some hot Arkle candidates and knowing Shishkin and possibly Energumene wait in open company it doesn't get any easier, all for a mare who could easily throw the towel in at any point - and before the fanclub members jump on this the comment relates to mares in general not Honeysuckle specifically.
Or do people think she'll be aimed at the Mares Chase as many believed that would be the season target for PTKO ?
Very tongue in cheek question that by the way...Comment
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Agree. The GC dream would be nice but at 8 next season you would think she would have to skip her Novice Chasing season and go straight for the big one which would make it more difficult. They want to breed off her as well so chasing could be too risky. A big thing for me also is that KA wasn't able to see her win in sensational fashion in the flesh this year and that will have hurt. He'll want to be there next season to see her retain her title. The Novice Chasers going for Gold next year are very strong and Henry also already has M Indoo, A Plus Tard and possibly Envoi that will all go for Gold. All of the above points to Honey going for the CH again IMO.Originally posted by Ice View PostComment
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How many wide margin Champion Hurdle winners ever flipped over to Novice Chases straight afterwards?"Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".Comment
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Non that i can think of but correct me if I'm wrong !Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View PostComment
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I can’t think of any either.Originally posted by Ice View Post
Why give up on GBP 300K+ winning through the season in Grade 1 2M hurdles with modest fields and opposition, if your the champion?
You only step up to fences when someone better comes along.Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 5 April 2021, 08:17 PM."Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".Comment
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Seems so obvious where she should be heading when you put it like that ! Here's hoping we are correct.Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View PostComment
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That's a business man speaking. Would be great if they went for the GC and she won it as she'd surely then be viewed as the best Mare ever . However, we all know that's not going to happen these days and they'll take the easier option.Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View PostComment
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Saxon comments - she could be star in waiting, based on Timeforms ratings, add on her 7lb allowance and she’s mixing it with Bob Olinger and Appreciate It on her weekend win
Echoes In Rain Timeform Update
Tony McFadden outlines the major changes to the Timeform ratings following the weekend's action.
Willie Mullins failed to win the Mares' Novices' Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival for the first time since its inception in 2016, but it turns out he'd left his best candidate at home in her box!
Mullins was concerned that the buzzy Echoes In Rain (151p from 138p) would boil over and ruin her chance if he took her to Cheltenham, so he elected to take the patient approach, instead running her in a Grade 2 novice hurdle at Fairyhouse on Sunday.
The hooded Echoes In Rain took time to settle under more patient tactics, but she was always travelling powerfully and the eye was drawn to her stalking the leaders on the approach to the straight. She had to wait for a gap but scythed through horses to lead between the final two flights and quickly pulled clear, extending the advantage to 15 lengths at the line.
It was an extraordinary performance, made even more meritorious given the steady early pace, and she is certainly up to winning a Grade 1. For context, Telmesomethinggirl achieved a rating of 140 for her impressive victory in the Mares' Novices' Hurdle, while the leader in the novice division is Echoes In Rain's stablemate Appreciate It, who earned a rating of 160p for his wide-margin success in the Supreme Novices' Hurdle.
Echoes In Rain, a recruit from the Flat in France, is clearly blessed with plenty of speed, so it will be interesting to see whether she is aimed at the Champion Hurdle next season, or if Mullins feels she can be as effective over the two and a half miles of the Mares' Hurdle.
NOVICES160p APPRECIATE IT 159p BOB OLINGER 151p ECHOES IN THE RAIN (f) 151 GAILLARD DU MESNIL 150p GALOPIN DES CHAMPS 149p MY DROGO 148 WILDE ABOUT OSCAR 147p VANILLIER 146p THIRD TIME LUCKI 146 BLUE LORD 146 BRAVEMANSGAME 145+ BEAR GHYLLS 145 BALLYADAM 145 MASTER MCSHEE 143p SHEWEARSITWELL (f) 142 SOARING GLORY 142x STONER'S CHOICE 141p CAPE GENTLEMAN 141p FLASH COLLONGES 141 CROSSHILL 141 FOR PLEASURE 141 JACKSONS GOLD
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QUILIXIOS144p MONMIRAL 143 ZANAHIYR 142p HAUT EN COULEURS 142 ADAGIO 141 TRITONIC 140p DUFFLE COAT 139 SAINT SAM 138p FRENCH ASEEL 138p STEPNEY CAUSEWAY 137p TEAHUPOO 135 CABOT CLIFFS 134 BALADIN DE MESC 133 NASSALAM 131p GOOD BALL 131 FORTUNES MELODY (f) 130 FIVEANDTWENTY (f) 129 BUSSELTON 129 HA D'OR 128+ RIVIERE D'ETEL (f) Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 6 April 2021, 08:13 PM."Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".Comment
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Kennedys remarks about abacadabras jumping would hint at him staying over hurdles next year.Comment
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