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Cheltenham 2022 - March Yankee

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  • #91
    Originally posted by Kautostar View Post
    Ptko and al boum photo have surely had their day and won their festival races now. In with the new, out with the old
    Put The Kettle On will be 8 next year, not exactly old and is 4/4 at the course. ABP I understand being 10 next year.

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    • #92
      I just can’t see either winning again next year. The champion chase and gold cup both look like transitional years with new blood coming in to take over. The champion hurdle might be retained by honeysuckle as the better novices look like they’re going chasing and nothing has come through except maybe ferny hollow. The stayers as always is anyone’s guess.

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      • #93
        I'm not sure there's much point backing PTKO ante post at 10s

        Cant see her going off shorter than 6s even as reigning champ

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        • #94
          Flooring Porter would be my selection for this month. Out of all the ante post favs has best price IMO (6s generally) for runners most likely to go for that race. Next in market is Thyme Hill who was matched with Paisley Park in races over the season suggesting Flooring would have him covered. Next in market, SDB who couldn’t finish in front of him this year so don’t see why he would next. Behind them it’s Paisley Park (surely seen best chance go now) & Ronald Pump who’ll be a 9yr old next season and can’t see huge improvement from. Rest in behind not guaranteed to run here either... rather take 6/1 on him than 4/1 Sir Gerhard/Bob Olinger who’ll face tougher competition & less confirmed targets...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by MadeinJapan View Post
            Flooring Porter would be my selection for this month. Out of all the ante post favs has best price IMO (6s generally) for runners most likely to go for that race. Next in market is Thyme Hill who was matched with Paisley Park in races over the season suggesting Flooring would have him covered. Next in market, SDB who couldn’t finish in front of him this year so don’t see why he would next. Behind them it’s Paisley Park (surely seen best chance go now) & Ronald Pump who’ll be a 9yr old next season and can’t see huge improvement from. Rest in behind not guaranteed to run here either... rather take 6/1 on him than 4/1 Sir Gerhard/Bob Olinger who’ll face tougher competition & less confirmed targets...
            A concern i would have with flooring porter is his style of racing, it would seem he needs to be out making the running in order to hit his mark, it won't take much for rivals to figure him out. I'd like to see him hit 160 using different tactics b4 i take him at the price.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Birds Nest View Post

              A concern i would have with flooring porter is his style of racing, it would seem he needs to be out making the running in order to hit his mark, it won't take much for rivals to figure him out. I'd like to see him hit 160 using different tactics b4 i take him at the price.
              Good point. Not thought of that. A yard just sacrifices a pace maker of some sort to upset him out in front to help the better horse in behind. Would want to see more versatility out of him to ease that worry.

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              • #97
                I know it’s not going to be a popular selection and race

                but i’m going to put Easysland forward.

                I think him and tiger are still way ahead of the others in this category.

                He’s still a nice age 7 going 8 so possible improvement, the competition tiger roll will be retiring or a year older. To be honest I think there were excuses this year, his preparation had its issues and the ground wasn’t in his favour. Was definitely left to much to do as well, was never going to get on terms with a tiger who wasn’t stopping on his day.

                Other bonuses with the festival experience and form, the target would be assured as well. 5/1 is a cracking price at this stage in my opinion !

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                • #98
                  When does the final decided yankee get posted?

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                  • #99
                    I understand this early it’s potentially about finding the right races but given how bad the value is what about fairly confident races with big prices? Likely to shorten in price as season progresses as well.

                    The Big Breakaway Gold Cup 50/1 (surely GC bound)
                    Gallyhill Brown Advisory 50/1 (surely staying chases)
                    Pure Genuis NHC 50/1 (as above sure TW mentioned this)
                    Journey With Me/Ramillies Albert Bartlett 33/1 (look like need further over hurdles)

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                    • Originally posted by callhimgamblor View Post
                      When does the final decided yankee get posted?
                      I usually put the Yankee up on the 1st or 2nd of the following month. Gives me a day or two to look through the thread again and then make a decision.

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                      • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post
                        Ptko and al boum photo have surely had their day and won their festival races now. In with the new, out with the old
                        My point about ABP is that 25s contributes to making a book on the gold cup, abp will go to tramore, win his race then straight to cheltenham as a 7-1 shot... Taking 25s now is a must if you want to make that book.

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                        • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post
                          Ptko and al boum photo have surely had their day and won their festival races now. In with the new, out with the old
                          PTKO is a 7yo...

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                          • Originally posted by Birds Nest View Post

                            My point about ABP is that 25s contributes to making a book on the gold cup, abp will go to tramore, win his race then straight to cheltenham as a 7-1 shot... Taking 25s now is a must if you want to make that book.
                            That’s fine for making a book but this is a multi and they are two completely different scenarios. Agree he go’s off much shorter than 25/1 but he won’t win it again and it’s place money at best.

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                            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                              PTKO is a 7yo...
                              8yr old by next Cheltenham, not old I accept but has had enough hard races now which can take there toll. I just don’t think she’s a multiple champion chase winner in waiting and I love the horse having backed her the last two years so it’s not sour grapes. I think she’s a pretty average winner and unless something happens to shishkin or the Mullins elect it will be place money at best for her I feel.

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                              • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

                                That’s fine for making a book but this is a multi and they are two completely different scenarios. Agree he go’s off much shorter than 25/1 but he won’t win it again and it’s place money at best.
                                For a multu this far out imo we'd have concentrate on the open grade 1s and looking through the gold cup is going to look very different nxt year and is open for value. Monkfish, En A (perhaps) apt, minella In, abp and chantry H are the protaganists with this their confirmed targets and imo abp is better than minella, apt and chantry and i only have the 2 novices as potentials to be ahead of him but they are stil only potentials, 25s, lightly raced and going for his 3rd gold cup with a realistic chance of winning. Its good value for a multi in imo, although i do respect your position on him too.

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