Originally posted by darlojim
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Going Chasing / Staying Hurdling.
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I still think the owner may get his way (as he should) with con hill going chasing. If that happens I could see facile going turners and Impaire and marine nationale going to the churdle.
if con hill stays hurdling facile v marine in arkle and Impaire turners possibly
all guesswork at this stage really though
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Originally posted by SeanRock View PostGaelic Warrior can still be backed at 22/1 with the boost on Laddies for the BANC, Hills win tomorrow & BANC is only 25/1 in comparison, I’ve just had my 5th or 6th dip into the market!
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
I think he'll win tomorrow but can't have him at Cheltenham because of his RH tendancy
Also the fact that Ricci owns him, after being narrowly beaten in '22 and then only beaten by a potential superstar, I think he will want to be back and try grab that win third time lucky.
Ricci loves Cheltenham runners and the fact that he wanted Vauban to run in the Triumph instead of waiting for a Novice campaign on the advice of Willie tells us that also. I'd have it strongly odds on he would go to the Fez IF good enough and fit.
And after all that Lobos , I've just seen that you said you couldn't have him because of his RH tendency, not that you don't think he will turn upLast edited by darlojim; 26 April 2023, 05:48 AM.
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Patrick also said he was hanging RH all the way up the straight in the Ballymore (maybe not clear from watching race )so whilst he did really well to finish where he did it's clearly not ideal. He kept on emphasising that he'd be better going the other way round and perhaps going up in trip.Last edited by Lobos; 26 April 2023, 10:14 AM.
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostPatrick also said he was hanging RH all the way up the straight in the Ballymore (maybe not clear from watching race )so whilst he did really well to finish where he did it's clearly not ideal. He kept on emphasising that he'd be better going the other way round and perhaps going up in trip.
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Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
Not saying you're wrong, Lobos, but were those comments not in relation to Champ Kiely? He may have said it about both, but Patrick definitely commented that CK was hanging right and made the comment that you couldn't see it from the side on camera footage.
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Originally posted by Nevertoolate View PostI still think the owner may get his way (as he should) with con hill going chasing. If that happens I could see facile going turners and Impaire and marine nationale going to the churdle.
if con hill stays hurdling facile v marine in arkle and Impaire turners possibly
all guesswork at this stage really though
Its simply if Henderson believes Con’ Hill will win a Gold Cup. It’s nothing less, nor nothing more than that.
He go’s chasing if Henderson believes, or knows already. And he might.
Otherwise, he stays hurdling to do what no other horse has ever done before.
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Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
Not saying you're wrong, Lobos, but were those comments not in relation to Champ Kiely? He may have said it about both, but Patrick definitely commented that CK was hanging right and made the comment that you couldn't see it from the side on camera footage.
“He settled like a dream and that was the key early on.
“Going that way is a huge help because you make him keen by trying to keep him straight.”
That last line refers to the problem any jockey has when riding him on a left handed course.
'Trying to keep him straight ' the whole way round a LH track just takes that much more out of the horse which is the difference between winning and losing.
That's why I'm so reluctant to back him again at the festival. Yes, he's ran two very good races there but he really should have won the first of them with EVERYTHING in his favour and a handicap 'certainty' and may well have got closer to or even beaten IEP if he didn't have this dislike of racing LH.
If Cheltenham was a RH track he'd be a good thing in whatever race he went for...........but it's not.
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