Has anyone had a Cheltenham 2022 punt yet

[ComplyOrDie]

Feel free to back the left back as first goalscorer in the next live football match after a big win...

Haha, I rarely bet on football, even for mug bets!

[Big Bucks]

Adnin feel free to delete. Discussion moved to general thread.

[Istabraq]

Out of curiosity see a few people have mentioned about losing accounts recently, has anyone lost Sky or PP and feel they place "muggy" bets. Maybe I should be a bit more paranoid, but what I do gain a healthy profit via Cheltenham, they will get a fair share of it back with my footy bets I place! So I don't see there ever being an issue with losing my account if I'm pretty much throwing it back at them! In hindsight I should have been more aware and spread out bets, as I probably was taking up offers and promos and not punting on footy etc and that's why I lost those but these 2 I feel like I shouldn't be worried? Thoughts?

Or the guys losing your accounts, do you have good discipline, beat the system and not "gamble" to an extent where you place muggy bets at all?

I'll respond on the General Chat threat as this one is for Cheltenham 2022...

[HoldenTheReins]

I'll be keeping an eye on Gerri Colombe tomorrow in the 17:30 at Naas for next year. He looked very impressive on debut and is a P2P winner. Form isn't overly great however.

[jack1092]

Has Envoy Allun told us the value yet?

[FinalFurlong91]

Was looking through monmirals breeding earlier and he looks like one who will improve for a fence

Same sire as Djakadam, quito de la roque, saint calvados, burrows saint and many other very useful chasers

Gaillard du mesnil also by this sire

[JackieMoon33]

I’ve got a sizeable shortlist of horses (some not so obvious) like those in my diary from this year.. I’ll knock them up at some point before going back into hibernation.

[Istabraq]

I’ve got a sizeable shortlist of horses (some not so obvious) like those in my diary from this year.. I’ll knock them up at some point before going back into hibernation.

If they’re not obvious will they be priced up or will you be requesting they are added ?

[JackieMoon33]

If they’re not obvious will they be priced up or will you be requesting they are added ?

Well last year I made the mistake of writing up horses before getting them added and then getting stung. However, I may withdraw from the ante post game next season due to losing another Bet365 cash out concession so the write ups might be just musings with no bets attached. If I am still betting then I’ll 100% be getting them added (probably by friends) before I post on here.

[Istabraq]

Just had a very small stakes patent:

Sir Gerhard - Ballymore 20/1
Aspire Tower - Arkle 33/1
Bob Olinger - Festival Nov Chase (ex RSA) 25/1

I’m well aware betting 13 months ahead is not smart, even more stupid when you are guessing which of the novice events your three horses take up.
But, if I know it’s a mad bet just think how it looks to the oddsmakers and may well help protect the account....

[Spectre]

I disagree about it not being smart Istabraq. The odds more than make up for the non-runners. It's all about playing the percentage game.

I have a whole host of bets I made early last year, singles, and multiples, and wouldn't go back on any of them.

This year I have more than ever:

Sir Gerhard Bumper and Any Race 22’ 33/1
Shishkin Champion Chase 22’ 14/1
Shishkin Arkle and Champion Chase 22’ 14/1
Gaillard du Mesnil 16/1 RSA
Bob Ollinger 25/1 RSA
Energumene 25/1 Ryanair
Envoi Allen Marsh and Gold Cup 22’ 28/1
Envoi Allen Gold Cup 22’ 14/1
Monkfish RSA and 22’ Gold Cup 33/1
Shishkin 22' Champ Chase/Envoi Allen 22' Gold Cup 225/1
Shishkin 22' Champ Chase/Monkfish 22' Gold Cup 200/1

I might lose a few of these over the Festival, but pretty much any one of these left standing pays for the rest, and some spectacularly so.

People dismiss them as poor bets too easily. The only thing is tying money up, but we all willingly do that every year anyway.

[Istabraq]

I disagree about it not being smart Istabraq. The odds more than make up for the non-runners. It's all about playing the percentage game.
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I'd suggest that to make it pay you need to get very lucky...

[Spectre]

I disagree. It's part of the antepost game, and they're bets that fit in with your book like any others. By having enhanced odds on horses that are likely to be well fancied at short prices, there's a much higher percentage chance of a return.

Also for those that want to take the risk out, the exchange is there to lay bets off.

[Istabraq]

I disagree.

And that's fine, it's what makes forums interesting places.
Three criteria however need to go your way; form, health and target and this far out I'm of the view that even for those with better information, judgement and knowledge they still need to get very lucky for all to click.

I started a thread in March last year, no idea where it went, on early Cheltenham 2021 prices and I doubt (can't be sure) the likes of Appreciate It, Shishkin and Galvin were mentioned as serious contenders for the races they currently occupy favouritism, and the likes of GDM, Bob Olinger, Energumene and Stattler wouldn't even have been mentioned/quoted, this happens every year.
I'm still bitter about the 1995 Champion Hurdle when I had the best 2 miler backed multiple times at nice prices, I went to Australia for 6 months, landed back on the Sunday before Cheltenham to find out they had dug up a group 1 flat winner in Alderbrook, as a novice, to take mine on and the rest is history.

Yes there's a process of consideration and judgement but there has to be a huge element of luck too...

[Ice]

And that's fine, it's what makes forums interesting places.
Three criteria however need to go your way; form, health and target and this far out I'm of the view that even for those with better information, judgement and knowledge they still need to get very lucky for all to click.

I started a thread in March last year, no idea where it went, on early Cheltenham 2021 prices and I doubt (can't be sure) the likes of Appreciate It, Shishkin and Galvin were mentioned as serious contenders for the races they currently occupy favouritism, and the likes of GDM, Bob Olinger, Energumene and Stattler wouldn't even have been mentioned/quoted, this happens every year.
I'm still bitter about the 1995 Champion Hurdle when I had the best 2 miler backed multiple times at nice prices, I went to Australia for 6 months, landed back on the Sunday before Cheltenham to find out they had dug up a group 1 flat winner in Alderbrook, as a novice, to take mine on and the rest is history.

Yes there's a process of consideration and judgement but there has to be a huge element of luck too...

Large action ?