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Has anyone had a Cheltenham 2022 punt yet
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Originally posted by Pendil View Post
Hopefully he will have learned from Monalee and will send a speed horse like Bob to be aimed for the Marsh. He has enough staying chasers for the future.
De Bromhead is dining at the top table and can realistically challenge for top trainer at cheltenham now. Bob would be solid favourite in the marsh, or he might well be second favourite rightly or wrongly to appreciate It in the arkle. I think we will start to see him spread his horses around abit more and try to win as many races as possible.
Another possible factor for him would maybe be if Ferny Hollow is sent the champion hurdle route, CPS may send Quilixios chasing and he looks a nice type for the arkle leaving Bob for the marsh. Theres also ballyadam but he wouldnt appear good enough for either race.
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Prob best value will be in top Irish bumper horses that did not run at Cheltenham.....who are the next Bob Olingers
Usually get more clues at stable visits later in year, but not sure if anyone can get list of highest rated Bumper horses
Know Elliott rates Gerri Colombe quite highly....but not sure where he might go? Prob more a Ballymore or Spuds horse as usual for Gordon?Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021)
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For me the long term strategy underpinning my ante post approach for the next 6-8 months will be to sparingly back the Irish and generally ignore the British. There will be infrequent exceptions, but I think that will form the basis of a profitable ante post approach.
There is no over-reaction or recency bias to that, 23-5 has been a long time coming. Irish winners since 2014 have been steadily rising - 12, 13, 15, 19, 17, 14, 17, 23. There is a clear statistical trend tilted in their favour, and there hasn't been a top British trainer at Cheltenham since 2013.
This year will live long in the memory of the likes of Paul Nicholls and Dan Skelton, and I can see them opting to wait for Aintree more in 2022 based on what's happened this year. They just don't seem to have the fire power. Don't get me wrong, both are excellent trainers who have hundreds of runners and win millions of pounds, but they seem to lack at the top table and it shows. Nicky in his old age seems to be losing the plot and didn't really have a good Cheltenham by his standards, and its hard to see where British talent is going to emerge from. Hobbs has been extremely quiet, Pipe didn't do well at Cheltenham and the Champion jockey here didn't even ride at Cheltenham.
My view ante post is the Irish dominance is here and its here to stay. The numbers in recent years are so heavily weighted towards the Irish. Since 2017 there have been 140 races at Cheltenham and Willie, Gordon and HDB have won 72 races between them. That's over half races won by three trainers alone. I know they represent the major Irish firepower, but this is super impressive. I look at Willies and Gordons stables, and in particular Henry's, and see nothing but upward trajectory. They are getting stronger not weaker, as opposed to the above who are getting weaker, not stronger.
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Originally posted by Eggs View Post....looks like Ferny being kept for next season:
https://www.attheraces.com/news/2021...or-next-season
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Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post
Willie - “It’s a shame Ferny Hollow had his setback, but he’s recovering well. Whether he runs at Punchestown, we’re not quite sure yet, it may be that we’ll put him away and make sure he’s 200 per cent for next season."
....would’ve been nice had he hinted of the plans for next season.
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Originally posted by Birds Nest View Post
Im not so sure we'll see come Saturday, weather doesnt show much rain and Newbury is riding good atm, also he"d be taking on a very good nichols horse who"d love it... Cant see hendo wanting any of that for jonbon, hope im wrong though.
He’ll be over hurdles if good enough for Cheltenham imo.
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“Sir Gerhard was very impressive, following on from Envoi Allen and Ferny Hollow, and the pressure now is to try to find one for next year. I did, rather tongue in cheek, say to Willie that the last horse that Mr Thompson bought, who is called Classic Getaway, might be the one to have a go with next year.
“He’s a very good-looking five-year-old by Getaway, and he was bought at Goffs’ Yorton Sale for ?570,000 in December after he had won his only point-to-point very easily.”
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