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Just watched the race, not ideal he didn’t win but certainly no need to be too despondent.
If we wins next time out then he’s back on track. Bookies reacting and pushing to 50/1 seems an over reaction imo.
Ferny Hollow beaten twice and cut into one of the market leaders.
Not sure you can directly compare the two though can you? PoP beaten easily by a horse who hasn't looked that good in two previous runs and been sent off at 33/1 and 16/1. Whilst FH was beaten by two completely unexposed horses who could be absolute top notchers?
Not sure you can directly compare the two though can you? PoP beaten easily by a horse who hasn't looked that good in two previous runs and been sent off at 33/1 and 16/1. Whilst FH was beaten by two completely unexposed horses who could be absolute top notchers?
Agree it wouldn't look great for POP in terms of the Champion Bumper credentials. However, the winner did have useful hurdle form and was in the process of running a decent race when falling. The form is of a decent level and the jockey helped with his 7pds. T Feeney wouldn't be a jockey i've heard a lot of, but a quick search of his 5 year history makes decent reading. 9 runs, 2 wins, 2 second, 1 third and 1 4th.
Not bad at all, and you can see why, as i thought he gave the winner a superb ride. Patrick thought he was on a rocket.
Think PoP being flat bred would have found the 2m 3f plenty far enough and would appreciate better ground too. Stamina was stretched and also would have needed run. 2 miles on better ground and fitter we may see a completely different animal/result. Still live in hope.
Think PoP being flat bred would have found the 2m 3f plenty far enough and would appreciate better ground too. Stamina was stretched and also would have needed run. 2 miles on better ground and fitter we may see a completely different animal/result. Still live in hope.
I agree. For a horse that wants 2m on good ground there's a case to be made for more positives than negatives yesterday, despite the fact he lost
A lot of money lost yesterday on POP, the thing I noticed was he did not display the turn of foot that he showed in the race course footage that most people have seen. Maybe he has a slight injury because he just never sprinted when asked.
Israel Champ form wasn’t harmed by Kid Commando dotting up at Plumpton. Wasn’t a great race but you won’t see a horse win more easily and he was away behind Israel in the listed bumper & was getting weight. With no Irish stand-out so far we could have another Moon Racer year!
Israel Champ form wasn’t harmed by Kid Commando dotting up at Plumpton. Wasn’t a great race but you won’t see a horse win more easily and he was away behind Israel in the listed bumper & was getting weight. With no Irish stand-out so far we could have another Moon Racer year!
Would love to see Soaring Glory back in contention for this after a break, but connections looking elsewhere. But if the form keeps being boosted then who knows, stranger things have happened and he could get an entry.
I didn't get much chance to watch too much racing over the weekend, but just been and watched Power Of Pause yesterday and I actually don't think it was that bad a run tbh, definitely not a 50/1 bad run.
They pulled well clear of the others and the winner would have finished close enough behind Ciel De Neige (a horse I like anyway) over hurdles LTO, to believe there is ability in that one, plus was getting the 7lb claim from a fairly unused, but extremely competent jockey.
I think 2m 3f was asking a fair bit on debut, and he was definitely keen enough IMO. I'm not giving up on him yet. How he can go to 50's when a horse like Ferny Hollow (beaten twice) remains near the head of the betting is beyond me, but good news for punters.
The RPR for POP was par for the course for a good one debuting, and higher than some that went on to achieve much higher ratings second time out. The only two exceptions came in two races. Farouk DAlene was higher in his debut win, and Erik Bloodaxe the highest of the current market leaders when beating Ferny Hollow.
The RPR for POP was par for the course for a good one debuting, and higher than some that went on to achieve much higher ratings second time out. The only two exceptions came in two races. Farouk DAlene was higher in his debut win, and Erik Bloodaxe the highest of the current market leaders when beating Ferny Hollow.
That certainly gives me a little bit more confidence
I haven’t cashed out POP or given up on him yet. It’s never ideal to be beaten but it was a muddle of a race & Patrick didn’t do the horse any favors neither. Almost all of Willie’s have come on leaps & bounds for they’re first runs this season. Definitely willing to give him another shot!
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