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Mares Hurdle 2020

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  • You'd think reading these last 5 pages Honeysuckle would have no chance in this race now. Has to be some recency bias here....




    Hard to say she didn't put in a career best today, absolutely fantastic.

    How short will she go off in Honeysuckle doesn't run?!

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post



      You'd think reading these last 5 pages Honeysuckle would have no chance in this race now. Has to be some recency bias here....




      Hard to say she didn't put in a career best today, absolutely fantastic.

      How short will she go off in Honeysuckle doesn't run?!
      1/2 I'd reckon?

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      • Originally posted by ryanh97 View Post
        1/2 I'd reckon?
        And the rest.....1/4 would be my guess.

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        • Just noticed that Kilultagh Vic has raced against both Benie (level weights) and Honeysuckle (who received 7 pounds) this season. Benie beat him 38 lengths over 3 miles and Honeysuckle beat him 25 over 2miles 4f. I don't know what conclusions, if any, you can draw from this info but said I'd mention it in any case.

          From my own viewpoint, having seen Benie in the flesh today through the fog in Gowran, I'm convinced she wont get beaten in Cheltenham, whichever race she goes for. I know you could argue she beat nothing today(given that Apples didn't run her race) but the French pundits looked shocked when she beat their best mare easily last summer and her only loss when trained by Willie was that last fence fall in Cheltenham. Willies reaction today in even making a comparison with Annie Power tells a story and Paul Townsend says shes the best mare hes ridden.

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          • Originally posted by harchibald View Post
            Just noticed that Kilultagh Vic has raced against both Benie (level weights) and Honeysuckle (who received 7 pounds) this season. Benie beat him 38 lengths over 3 miles and Honeysuckle beat him 25 over 2miles 4f. I don't know what conclusions, if any, you can draw from this info but said I'd mention it in any case.

            From my own viewpoint, having seen Benie in the flesh today through the fog in Gowran, I'm convinced she wont get beaten in Cheltenham, whichever race she goes for. I know you could argue she beat nothing today(given that Apples didn't run her race) but the French pundits looked shocked when she beat their best mare easily last summer and her only loss when trained by Willie was that last fence fall in Cheltenham. Willies reaction today in even making a comparison with Annie Power tells a story and Paul Townsend says shes the best mare hes ridden.
            Very high praise indeed and fully warranted. I watched todays race back again and she was seriously impressive, scary even. I really hope her and Honey stick to Mares as it will be a fantastic race for us all to savour. Please let it happen.

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            • Benie-stayers
              Honey-champion hurdle
              Laurina-mares

              What odds on them lining up this way let alone winning ?

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              • Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                Benie-stayers
                Honey-champion hurdle
                Laurina-mares

                What odds on them lining up this way let alone winning ?
                If Benie goes Stayers and Honey goes CH all it does is detract from the Mares race

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                • Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                  Benie-stayers
                  Honey-champion hurdle
                  Laurina-mares

                  What odds on them lining up this way let alone winning ?
                  No one wants this to happen but not out of the question. If Honey destroys the Irish Churdle field and then targets English version the Mares then becomes a penalty kick for Benie. However, Mullins may decide to send Benie down the Stayers route with her 7lbs claim knowing he has plenty others to mop up the Mares. This may well include Laurina who bled when chasing last time. An easy Mares would be a lovely, less stressful opportunity for her to get back on track over the smaller obstacles. Mullins would be the biggest winner in this situation picking up two big pots instead of one. Also, Benie would then have a Mares and a Stayers on her CV and could conceivably target the GC next year . If she won that as well (and remember she is unbeaten over fences) she would surely go down as the greatest Mare of all time. I'm off to do the treble......

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                  • The decent prices on these doubles trebles etc are long gone, especially for cash out or nrnb. Hills best but then they don’t run it’s wasting points imo.

                    It would be best to wait until the week now. If it’s been raining and ground is soft Willie will take the potentially penalty kick in the mares, it’s a grade 1, it’s the first day. At the present moment I see it as a penalty kick, just my opinion.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      No one wants this to happen but not out of the question. If Honey destroys the Irish Churdle field and then targets English version the Mares then becomes a penalty kick for Benie. However, Mullins may decide to send Benie down the Stayers route with her 7lbs claim knowing he has plenty others to mop up the Mares. This may well include Laurina who bled when chasing last time. An easy Mares would be a lovely, less stressful opportunity for her to get back on track over the smaller obstacles. Mullins would be the biggest winner in this situation picking up two big pots instead of one. Also, Benie would then have a Mares and a Stayers on her CV and could conceivably target the GC next year . If she won that as well (and remember she is unbeaten over fences) she would surely go down as the greatest Mare of all time. I'm off to do the treble......
                      The chances of her going over a fence at her age again must be pretty close to zero, why would they especially if she won at this years festival again, its not like shes faugheen, she has another job to do after retirement.

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                      • Its very exciting having 2 great mares potentially clashing at the Festival, but lets not forget Roksana, she may have a little to find with bdd but she wasnt stopping up that hill last year and i think she'll be a lot closer to her than many think.

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                        • The plan is to wait for the aintree hurdle which I find weird as last years winner but based on Benie standing up and an improved Stormy Ireland this year can’t see her winning what so ever.

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                          • Originally posted by Philg123 View Post
                            The plan is to wait for the aintree hurdle which I find weird as last years winner but based on Benie standing up and an improved Stormy Ireland this year can’t see her winning what so ever.
                            Are you sure?

                            Skeltons assistant said that may be a possibility after the race. When Dan was on holiday.

                            But I havent seen anything as straight as you've put it. And shes since been entered.
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                            • My mate said they’re leaning towards waiting but as I said I find that a strange one. Either way she’s running for third behind Benie and Stormy Ireland.

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                              • Originally posted by Philg123 View Post
                                My mate said they’re leaning towards waiting but as I said I find that a strange one. Either way she’s running for third behind Benie and Stormy Ireland.
                                What form are you reading that makes you think that its a forgone conclusion that Stormy Ireland would beat Roksana???

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