Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

[Big Bucks]

It sure is just not good enough?

[Kevloaf]

Off topic but they are all the same, anyone that still has an unrestricted 365 acc is either losing more than they realise or they’re so good that traders are using their bets as info - there’s a reason why their invisible CEO is giving herself £300m bonuses.
The next year will be crucial, massive reduction in shops means they have to find new ways of keeping shareholders happy, just maybe there’ll be a return to behaving like bookmakers....

sorry chaps


I didn't realise 365 even had shops.

I work in Stoke at the moment - JCB and 365 are all anyone talks about down there (up there for most of you probably)

[Big Chac]

As Envoi looking the most likely winner, Im just wondering how people play markets like these?....

Do you back a couple of extra horses in case he flops to get back our stake or do you go e/w on a few decent prices.....

The only 2 iv backed in envoi and TBB (e/w) so I'm just wondering what's the best way is to go with race markets like these.....im bit unsure of what the best method is.

[Lobos]

As Envoi looking the most likely winner, Im just wondering how people play markets like these?....

Do you back a couple of extra horses in case he flops to get back our stake or do you go e/w on a few decent prices.....

The only 2 iv backed in envoi and TBB (e/w) so I'm just wondering what's the best way is to go with race markets like these.....im bit unsure of what the best method is.

Leave until the day. You'll get decent win odds on the 'without Envoi' market. No point wasting a win bet now on anything in the race against Envoi in my view. Also likely to get place odds down to 8th maybe on the day.

[Kevloaf]

As Envoi looking the most likely winner, Im just wondering how people play markets like these?....

Do you back a couple of extra horses in case he flops to get back our stake or do you go e/w on a few decent prices.....

The only 2 iv backed in envoi and TBB (e/w) so I'm just wondering what's the best way is to go with race markets like these.....im bit unsure of what the best method is.

There probably isn't a one size fits all 'best method'.

Ultimately it comes down to what you think the value is in the race.


I always keep looking for value but when one (like EA) looks to be so good, I may not add much else before now and then.


I wouldn't play on the day in the "without" market unless something was the wrong price though.,....


If you're already on the most likely winner, at a bigger price than the SP - you've done your job - so move on to the next race I guess

[Scooby91]

As Envoi looking the most likely winner, Im just wondering how people play markets like these?....

Do you back a couple of extra horses in case he flops to get back our stake or do you go e/w on a few decent prices.....

The only 2 iv backed in envoi and TBB (e/w) so I'm just wondering what's the best way is to go with race markets like these.....im bit unsure of what the best method is.

I personally like to keep on top of it and back what I believe to be the NB win only at their biggest prices.
I'll have 3 in the race regardless of how much I think envoi will win.

[Scooby91]

Just to add.
It also Depends what price you've backed him at,

at single figures, i wouldnt have an interest in covering him.

[Big Chac]

Iv got envoi at a total of 12/1 thanks to a few rolling doubles and TBB at 20/1 e/w.....I always like to have a 1 back up incase envoi get's injured.

im just not sue if I want to be adding any others, though it's a nice situation to be in.

[Scooby91]

Iv got envoi at a total of 12/1 thanks to a few rolling doubles and TBB at 20/1 e/w.....I always like to have a 1 back up incase envoi get's injured.

im just not sue if I want to be adding any others, though it's a nice situation to be in.

If unexcepted wins in the week, he'll be 6/1 2nd fav straight away.
he dosent take the slightest grip what so ever, he's doing the right thing in staying away from EA beforehand, and JP is certainly not going to have half the field in the supreme.

[AnFiieLD.]

If unexcepted wins in the week, he'll be 6/1 2nd fav straight away.
he dosent take the slightest grip what so ever, he's doing the right thing in staying away from EA beforehand, and JP is certainly not going to have half the field in the supreme.

Unexcepted looks a huge price for this if you were to read into his entries, however he’s over double the price for this than he is for the supreme on the exchange. Obviously part of that is due to Envoi being such a strong fav for this race but even still I’d expect him to be shorter. I’ve added Unexcepted for this

[Lobos]

Wouldn't expect Unexcepted to come here judging by the way he runs. Looks all over a 2 miler to me. Think he'll be Mullins number 1 in the Supreme and a big threat to Abra.

[Scooby91]

Wouldn't expect Unexcepted to come here judging by the way he runs. Looks all over a 2 miler to me. Think he'll be Mullins number 1 in the Supreme and a big threat to Abra.

We will see how that analysis works out. He hasn't played his supreme hand yet.

[Scooby91]

Unexcepted looks a huge price for this if you were to read into his entries, however he’s over double the price for this than he is for the supreme on the exchange. Obviously part of that is due to Envoi being such a strong fav for this race but even still I’d expect him to be shorter. I’ve added Unexcepted for this

Nothing to do with envoi allen, the exchange price will swing. It's only assumption and public money that has his market price as it is for the supreme.

[SeanRock]

I've added Elixir D'ainay to the B365 market & backed for the Supreme given the possibility of a switch of apparent targets with Unexcepted! Entries over the next few weeks would add fuel to that fire.

The price crash on Unexcepted was largely down to Gavin Lynch tipping him up for the Supreme. That had a bigger influence on the market than his maiden win did!

[Lobos]

Unexcepted and Elixr are 8/1 and 16/1 TWAR. Probably the best way to go in view of unknown targets.