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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

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  • Originally posted by Big Bucks View Post
    Its the one race I feel i could do with a big price to have in my book
    I agree BB.
    I've taken a very strong view on a few novice races; Thyme Hill - potato, Samcro - JLT, Fakir - Arkle and Envoi Allen - Ballymore, so much so that I've generally ignored everything else.
    Whilst I think they all go to the races I've backed them in history tells us that 3 months out things can change very quickly.

    I'll look for a few nuggets from the Christmas festivals....

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    • Has there been any word on AD’s performance since yesterday?

      365 seem to have cut him

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      • Originally posted by Innoko View Post
        Has there been any word on AD’s performance since yesterday?

        365 seem to have cut him
        Thought it was an oddschecker error but they have actually cut him to 8/1!

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        • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
          Thought it was an oddschecker error but they have actually cut him to 8/1!
          I know they normally like a cut on a Monday, but wasn't expecting AD to be part of that....

          Trying to tempt me into a cash out I feel.

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          • Unbelievable... can cash him for a 50% profit on some bets. Ive split him into a few bets and going to cash at least one now.
            Last edited by Can't Catch Me; 16 December 2019, 02:46 PM.

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            • Envoi allen is now priced up at 4/7 for the 2m5 at Naas. Some big prices in behind if anyone is of the opinion he dosent run.
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              • The Big Breakaway certainly has no penalty kick tomorrow at Newbury. I'm still expecting him to win but I was going to mention the Henderson inmate, Craigneiche, in the Spud Race thread who opposes him tomorrow. I K Brunel is better than his last showing on soft ground although he has to carry a penalty too. Papa Tango Charly was even more expensive that The Big Breakaway but has yet to produce it on the track.

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                • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                  The Big Breakaway certainly has no penalty kick tomorrow at Newbury. I'm still expecting him to win but I was going to mention the Henderson inmate, Craigneiche, in the Spud Race thread who opposes him tomorrow. I K Brunel is better than his last showing on soft ground although he has to carry a penalty too. Papa Tango Charly was even more expensive that The Big Breakaway but has yet to produce it on the track.
                  I K Brunel clearly must show an awful lot at home. Dissapointed a few times now but always aimed high and touted all over the place so he must come good one day.

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                  • I'll be very disappointed if the big breakaway doesn't win tomorrow, and win well, his opening run screamed the ballymore to me, and I think he'll be right amongst it.

                    I dont get the bartlett chat, i don't think he looked a bartlett horse what so ever. I know its tizzard but he now has robbie powers feedback behind him, hes a 360k 4yo who travels well behind the bridle and was asked for nothing, the last thing you'd do is put him in the albert Bartlett imo.
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                    • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                      I'll be very disappointed if the big breakaway doesn't win tomorrow, and win well, his opening run screamed the ballymore to me, and I think he'll be right amongst it.

                      I dont get the bartlett chat, i don't think he looked a bartlett horse what so ever. I know its tizzard but he now has robbie powers feedback behind him, hes a 360k 4yo who travels well behind the bridle and was asked for nothing, the last thing you'd do is put him in the albert Bartlett imo.
                      Absolutely agree Scooby. The Bartlett is not a race I would be looking at any horse aged 5 (after January) winning, its been won by a five year old once in a decade (by a 33/1 shot), and I would much favour those with more age and experience for the 3 miler.
                      The Big Breakaway goes here, in the Ballymore, if he carries on his upward trajectory, and he could quite easily go single figures for the race with an expanded distance win at Newbury.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Depending on How it runs between now and March they'll probably go Ballymore with Breakaway.
                        But can't imagine it winning that so I backed for bartlett after it ran the last day.
                        Pretty sure they think he's a future staying chaser.
                        we'll see tomorrow.

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                        • If Envoi does come here as expected it's really hard to fancy anything else to win and even harder to back anything else against him. Anything other than a bet on Envoi would feel like a wasted bet to me.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            If Envoi does come here as expected it's really hard to fancy anything else to win and even harder to back anything else against him. Anything other than a bet on Envoi would feel like a wasted bet to me.
                            It's a good each way market, and should continue to be.
                            And if he gets beat in January, or is really pressed ?

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                            • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                              Depending on How it runs between now and March they'll probably go Ballymore with Breakaway.
                              But can't imagine it winning that so I backed for bartlett after it ran the last day.
                              Pretty sure they think he's a future staying chaser.
                              we'll see tomorrow.
                              He’s due to run in a listed hurdle at Exeter over 2m next and then Cheltenham. Given his debut performance I’d be surprised if that resulted in a step up and a gruelling race in the AB. They’ll have one eye on next season and rightly so. He’s top of my novice chase shortlist already.

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                              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                                He’s due to run in a listed hurdle at Exeter over 2m next and then Cheltenham. Given his debut performance I’d be surprised if that resulted in a step up and a gruelling race in the AB. They’ll have one eye on next season and rightly so. He’s top of my novice chase shortlist already.
                                listed hurdle after tomorrow's race ?

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