Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

[Quevega]

Elliott has pretty much said he won't run this weekend (Envoi Allen)
but he is entered so ???

Elliott said of Envoi Allen, who made a winning debut over hurdles this month: "He'll be entered for the Monksfield Novice Hurdle at Navan on Sunday along with Fury Road and Abacadabras, and we'll decide on plans later in the week. But Envoi Allen could wait for the Royal Bond at Fairyhouse the following Sunday."

what he said, above

[darlojim]

Elliott said of Envoi Allen, who made a winning debut over hurdles this month: "He'll be entered for the Monksfield Novice Hurdle at Navan on Sunday along with Fury Road and Abacadabras, and we'll decide on plans later in the week. But Envoi Allen could wait for the Royal Bond at Fairyhouse the following Sunday."

what he said, above

Envoi Allen for the Supreme then all sorted

[Lobos]

Envoi Allen for the Supreme then all sorted

But not if he runs in Monksfield. Decisions being made early. I like.

[jack1092]

But not if he runs in Monksfield. Decisions being made early. I like.

Samcro went over 2m too remember....

[charlie]

Samcro went over 2m too remember....

Yep. The idea that the decisions made now over distance will reflect where he goes in March is historically not accurate, as you point out with Samcro

[ComplyOrDie]

Yep. The idea that the decisions made now over distance will reflect where he goes in March is historically not accurate, as you point out with Samcro

100% this. I wouldn't be getting giddy on any target based on his next run.

[Scooby91]

Anyone can say any rubbish they want, it wont be official right up until the death.
Its A dangerous game, trying to interpret comments from the likes of gordon in November.

[Innoko]

Gordon always tells the truth.

Envoi Allen won’t go to Cheltenham this season. GE after the bumper win.

Amen.

[charlie]

Anyone can say any rubbish they want, it wont be official right up until the death.
Its A dangerous game, trying to interpret comments from the likes of gordon in November.

Definitely. Lots of people these days seem naturally inclined to want to play the speculation game and it's more fun/fashionable/current to try and interpret what's going to happen vs listening to what's actually been said. Whilst plans can change as can trainers minds, I would always be more inclined to follow the latter until I'm given reason to believe otherwise.

[robith]

I'm very glad I cashed my Envoi Allen ballymore bet and switched it to any race

[FaugheenTheMachine]

The big difference with Samcro was most of Gordy’s yard had him backed for the Ballymore IIRC?

[Can't Catch Me]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment that's its dangerous trying to interpret comments in November, isn't that the whole point of what we are all doing on here?! Every single one of us will have backed horses that have never even run in GB& Ire for a meeting 6 months away! The very nature of antepost betting is trying to interpret comments / actions months in advance.

I think it will be interesting if EA goes 2m Maiden Hurdle, 2m Royal Bond, 2m Deloitte as his prep for Cheltenham. I always think trainers are creatures of habit and if he's a certainty to go for the Ballymore, then why not follow the Samcro route and take in the Monksfield instead of the Royal Bond? It could simply be that the Royal Bond is a week later and EA appeared later than Samcro... or it could be that they want to try him over 2m in better company to to give them a better steer on his Supreme credentials.

[Lobos]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment that's its dangerous trying to interpret comments in November, isn't that the whole point of what we are all doing on here?! Every single one of us will have backed horses that have never even run in GB& Ire for a meeting 6 months away! The very nature of antepost betting is trying to interpret comments / actions months in advance.

I think it will be interesting if EA goes 2m Maiden Hurdle, 2m Royal Bond, 2m Deloitte as his prep for Cheltenham. I always think trainers are creatures of habit and if he's a certainty to go for the Ballymore, then why not follow the Samcro route and take in the Monksfield instead of the Royal Bond? It could simply be that the Royal Bond is a week later and EA appeared later than Samcro... or it could be that they want to try him over 2m in better company to to give them a better steer on his Supreme credentials.

I couldn't have put it a better way. Spot on.

[Scooby91]

The big breakaway very impressive against little of note, looks like this could be his trip to me.
Bigger tasks ahead but hard not to be impressed.

[Craigy14]

The big breakaway very impressive against little of note, looks like this could be his trip to me.
Bigger tasks ahead but hard not to be impressed.

Really was mate, just put similar on the ab thread. Think he could be smart as you say. I have any race so be interesting what connections go far next time if they step him up or not.