Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

[ComplyOrDie]

Does not bother me one bit where Envoi Allen starts out. Samcro & Yorkhill both ran over 2m prior to winning the Ballymore. City Island 2, 3f too. It is irrelevant at this stage IMO.

[jack1092]

Do you think Willies unraced bumper horses from last season will go straight over hurdles now?

I wouldn't say all will, but the majority of the pointers will. He'll have a lot of novice hurdlers this year you'd think!

[JackieMoon33]

I wouldn't say all will, but the majority of the pointers will. He'll have a lot of novice hurdlers this year you'd think!

Asterion Forlonge is one that never made the track last year but was an expensive recruit. He could be interesting and under the radar.

[Lobos]

If I was a backer of Envoi Allen it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. He looks like a horse who could win a maiden over any trip, especially those weak, early season Irish races where they run at a dawdle and only 2 or 3 horses are trying.

A little known previous winner took this route:

2m 6f maiden at Punchestown
2m 4f novice at Navan
3m Grade 3 at Limerick
2m 5f Ballymore winner

The Machine

[jack1092]

If I was a backer of Envoi Allen it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. He looks like a horse who could win a maiden over any trip, especially those weak, early season Irish races where they run at a dawdle and only 2 or 3 horses are trying.

A little known previous winner took this route:

2m 6f maiden at Punchestown
2m 4f novice at Navan
3m Grade 3 at Limerick
2m 5f Ballymore winner

Love this Jackie.

Asterion Forlonge is one that never made the track last year but was an expensive recruit. He could be interesting and under the radar.

As is the horse i know a lot were on for the bumper- Energumene! (this jump season is getting me v excited haha!)

[Can't Catch Me]

If Gordon has confirmed EA will take up the 2m option at DR then that presumably means Andy Dufresne won't run which is a shame.

[Kevloaf]

Do you think Willies unraced bumper horses from last season will go straight over hurdles now?

Majority yeah.

Hard enough to gauge the pecking order without that spanner though!

[Coneygree15]

Henry de Bromhead specifically mentioned Dancing On My Own having the Ballymore as his target this season [in RP stable tour], which surprised me. But if you put a line through his Coral Cup run, he wasn't too far behind Klassical Dream at Leopardstown last Christmas, so maybe he does have a bit of quality and can progress.

Not suggesting by any means that he's a bet but he could be one to keep an eye on given the target seems set already.

[Scooby91]

Henry de Bromhead specifically mentioned Dancing On My Own having the Ballymore as his target this season [in RP stable tour], which surprised me. But if you put a line through his Coral Cup run, he wasn't too far behind Klassical Dream at Leopardstown last Christmas, so maybe he does have a bit of quality and can progress.

Not suggesting by any means that he's a bet but he could be one to keep an eye on given the target seems set already.

The owner sponsors the race. So they can dream.

[JackieMoon33]

The owner sponsors the race. So they can dream.

Hopefully my boy Longhouse Poet will be the sponsors main hope in the Ballymore. I think he's some of the best value in the race at 33/1 with Bet365.

[Can't Catch Me]

Hopefully my boy Longhouse Poet will be the sponsors main hope in the Ballymore. I think he's some of the best value in the race at 33/1 with Bet365.

Totally agree Jackie. Given connections its hard to make a case for NOT backing him at 33/1 with the cashout option. Adding him now. Bloody hell, I'm going against my intended strategy and its still October... up to 5 in this race already

[Big Bucks]

No Envoi Allen tomorrow! Disappointed as going to the meeting! Any updates where it will start now?

[Faugheen_Machine]

No Envoi Allen tomorrow! Disappointed as going to the meeting! Any updates where it will start now?

You'll have to go Saturday instead

[Big Bucks]

You'll have to go Saturday instead

Or both? Will see how get on tomorrow...

[Faugheen_Machine]

Or both? Will see how get on tomorrow...

The plan is for Envoi Allen to run Saturday as far as I'm aware. Saturday looks like being a really good card