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  • Elixir d'ainay

    “I'd imagine we'll go to the Dublin racing festival now, and probably over two-and-a-half. We'll go wherever we can and try and plan a path to Cheltenham maybe and try and avoid the other fella!”
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    • I've only watched the last half of the race but a slight concern with Asterion Forlonge would be how he jumped out to his right. Would want to see him jump straighter before I could fancy him for Cheltenham as impressive as he was today.

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      • On his tendency to jump right:- “I don't know why he was doing that. Schooling at home he goes the other way.

        “He was probably just idling. He wants to do anything but do the right thing which is a good sign as it means there is way more improvement to come.

        “He had to do it the hard way, make all his own running there today, and was just running around in front.

        “Hopefully we can sort that out before his next run.”
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        • Cheers for that Scooby

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          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
            Elixir d'ainay

            “I'd imagine we'll go to the Dublin racing festival now, and probably over two-and-a-half. We'll go wherever we can and try and plan a path to Cheltenham maybe and try and avoid the other fella!”
            Says to me that he feels Unexcepted would beat Elixir D'Ainay over 2 otherwise he'd surely drop him back at Dublin. Same trainer/owner combination. No other reason IMO.

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            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
              Elixir d'ainay

              “I'd imagine we'll go to the Dublin racing festival now, and probably over two-and-a-half. We'll go wherever we can and try and plan a path to Cheltenham maybe and try and avoid the other fella!”
              Not sure some connections realise that there isn’t a 2M4F race at the DRF. The only Graded Novice Hurdle race between now and the Festival above 2M and less than 3M is the Grade 1 Golden Cygnet over 2M6F at the DRF. It would be interesting to see if ED is aimed at that or the 2M Grade 1 on the same weekend. If Envoi Allen misses the meeting then WPM choice of race for Elixir D’Ainay could reveal more about where his Cheltenham destiny lies.
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                Says to me that he feels Unexcepted would beat Elixir D'Ainay over 2 otherwise he'd surely drop him back at Dublin. Same trainer/owner combination. No other reason IMO.
                Agree. Don't think Unexcepted can go anywhere else other than Supreme.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                  Says to me that he feels Unexcepted would beat Elixir D'Ainay over 2 otherwise he'd surely drop him back at Dublin. Same trainer/owner combination. No other reason IMO.
                  That's just an assumption. The DRF is in feb.
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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    Agree. Don't think Unexcepted can go anywhere else other than Supreme.
                    He could go to the county, if hes well beaten again.
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                    • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                      He could go to the county, if hes well beaten again.
                      You have a big tongue in your cheek saying that Scooby. Think he will step up markedly on his last performance next time and put himself right back in the Supreme picture. He is a very good horse

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        You have a big tongue in your cheek saying that Scooby. Think he will step up markedly on his last performance next time and put himself right back in the Supreme picture. He is a very good horse
                        No tongue in cheek at all. He hasn't ran to a mark of 140 yet.
                        Iv never got the talk of him being the main supreme Horse.

                        But on hard facts, realistically if hes soundly beaten against the likes of abacadabras, I think they'll look at the county off a mark in the 130s.


                        Theres a gap now to the DRF, a 2miler might run inbetween.
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                        • Gordon says if he was a betting man he'd say Envoi would keep to his own grade and at 2 miles he'd have to be forcing it all the way. Over 2 1/2 he'd find it easy to drop in and ride a race. Tear up those Supreme/Churdle slips. Lovely.

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                          • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                            No tongue in cheek at all. He hasn't ran to a mark of 140 yet.
                            Iv never got the talk of him being the main supreme Horse.

                            But on hard facts, realistically if hes soundly beaten against the likes of abacadabras, I think they'll look at the county off a mark in the 130s.


                            Theres a gap now to the DRF, a 2miler might run inbetween.
                            If he runs in the County I'll never bet again...................




                            Fuck that ! Lol !

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                              Gordon says if he was a betting man he'd say Envoi would keep to his own grade and at 2 miles he'd have to be forcing it all the way. Over 2 1/2 he'd find it easy to drop in and ride a race. Tear up those Supreme/Churdle slips. Lovely.
                              He always uses that phrase, and it amuses me, he clearly is a betting man. He knows the current odds of all of his horses that he accidentally slips in, in many interviews.
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                              • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                                He always uses that phrase, and it amuses me, he clearly is a betting man. He knows the current odds of all of his horses that he accidentally slips in, in many interviews.
                                Gordo is a punter

                                Takes his mates racing , lands a few touches

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