Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

[Kevloaf]

The idea that Envoi Allen is unbeatable on the day is just wrong as well.

Most likely winner? Fine.

[Lobos]

Has to be the way forward?

A week ago the way forward in your opinion was to back horses for this race because EA was going Supreme?

You're always going to be behind the curve that way?


I've already backed Elixir and Longhouse each way at bigger prices than they are now?


.... and EA is not value because he's so well known in the market. He's in my book already at double figures, but to suggest there is no other way to make money isn't the way I'll play it.



Waiting for day of race offers isn't on my mind, thats not going to make or break the week by such a long stretch.

Much better profit win bet on without Envoi on day than betting Ew now unless you think Envoi loses or doesn't turn up. Yes, I thought EA going Supreme last week on back of owner comments which is only natural but have moved on now and no damage done.

[Lobos]

The idea that Envoi Allen is unbeatable on the day is just wrong as well.

Most likely winner? Fine.

Think in this game when horses of his nature come along, from past experience you have to swallow your pride and except that the odds are against you in that he won't get beat. Of course, it's not guaranteed but ..

[Kevloaf]

Think in this game when horses of his nature come along, from past experience you have to swallow your pride and except that the odds are against you in that he won't get beat. Of course, it's not guaranteed but ..

I'll be repeating myself but the are so many bumper horses that get hyped and never reach the top.


When you're so blinded by "the" hype horse there's just no value in it.


Horses like Might Bite and Cyrname pop into my head ... they were nowhere as bumper horses, they all improved at different times.

Altior was beaten in bumpers... way too much stock given to horses that win bumpers in general?

[Kevloaf]

EA is just similar to Samcro, which is great and if you read my ante post stuff you'll see that I want him to win.... specifically this race.

...but you made a comment on another thread about not being a sheep? Envoi Allen is the biggest Shepherd in the field!

[Lobos]

I'll be repeating myself but the are so many bumper horses that get hyped and never reach the top.


When you're so blinded by "the" hype horse there's just no value in it.


Horses like Might Bite and Cyrname pop into my head ... they were nowhere as bumper horses, they all improved at different times.

Altior was beaten in bumpers... way too much stock given to horses that win bumpers in general?

It's not just his Bumper form I'm going by. He just looks outstanding as a hurdler.

[Saxon Warrior]

Agreed on EA being a better hurdler than bumper, but then that’s undeniable.

[Saxon Warrior]

For the select few that they allow such offers.

If your getting theses offers, your profitable for them.

Agreed on this, I closed my account with them when they started limiting my bets to maximum units of 13p!

[Lobos]

Turnpike Trip who ran well when 4th to Envoi Allen last time, tests that form in the Betfair Trophy Hurdle as Ireland's only representative.

[jack1092]

Yep, Sky limit you and withdraw the offer- just open a new account though, easy enough to do.,

[jack1092]

Turnpike Trip who ran well when 4th to Envoi Allen last time, tests that form in the Betfair Trophy Hurdle as Ireland's only representative.

think he's 20s too- off a high enough mark probably

[Lobos]

think he's 20s too- off a high enough mark probably

You would like to see him run close though to Frank the form as the race aint too special.

[Istabraq]

For the select few that they allow such offers.

If your getting theses offers, your profitable for them.

Off topic but they are all the same, anyone that still has an unrestricted 365 acc is either losing more than they realise or they’re so good that traders are using their bets as info - there’s a reason why their invisible CEO is giving herself £300m bonuses.
The next year will be crucial, massive reduction in shops means they have to find new ways of keeping shareholders happy, just maybe there’ll be a return to behaving like bookmakers....

[Saxon Warrior]

You can easily check how much you are winning or losing with Bet365 by checking the Win/Loss option in Account-History.

I think a lot of the mainstream bookmakers do this now, Betfair etc, it makes interesting reading.

[The King Pimm]

You can easily check how much you are winning or losing with Bet365 by checking the Win/Loss option in Account-History.

I think a lot of the mainstream bookmakers do this now, Betfair etc, it makes interesting reading.

Or a very disappointing reading