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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Yep, Gordon says it wasn't his running. Sounds like he is expecting to find something wrong.
    Rubbish.

    He said hes 100% fine as it stands, And he'd like to think that it may not be his running.
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    • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
      Rubbish.

      He said hes 100% fine as it stands, And he'd like to think that it may not be his running.
      Just a posh polite trainer way of saying it was not his running then. Same difference.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        Just a posh polite trainer way of saying it was not his running then. Same difference.
        Not at all. It means he's been checked by the vet at the course and trotted up fine. He hoped that he would be better than that. But he hasn't an excuse why he wasnt.
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        • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
          Not at all. It means he's been checked by the vet at the course and trotted up fine. He hoped that he would be better than that. But he hasn't an excuse why he wasnt.
          Beautifully put. I'm sure it'll come out in the wash...

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          • I think Gordon was advising that it was nothing to do with lameness, or anything that could be seen physically wrong with the horse walking him up after the race. Then he will check him back in the yard for other less visible issues, by blood test etc. Nothing to report at this time.

            The jockey thought he was running well and then from 2 out,
            he was beaten by a better stayer.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • The main worry for me would be thats the first time he's seen another horse at the business end of a race and looked like he wasn't really up for the fight.... seemed to give in a little too easily for my liking.

              But its early days. He's finished second in a Grade 2 against a horse who stays very well on only his second start over hurdles. He could have learnt alot for next time or could just not be as good as hoped. Too early to be too definitive either way. I'd say Gordon gets more right than he does wrong.

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              • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                The main worry for me would be thats the first time he's seen another horse at the business end of a race and looked like he wasn't really up for the fight.... seemed to give in a little too easily for my liking.

                But its early days. He's finished second in a Grade 2 against a horse who stays very well on only his second start over hurdles. He could have learnt alot for next time or could just not be as good as hoped. Too early to be too definitive either way. I'd say Gordon gets more right than he does wrong.
                Think Gordon was surprised how close the 3rd got to him as well. Clearly he expected AD to put a lot more distance between them based on what he knows at home.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  Think Gordon was surprised how close the 3rd got to him as well. Clearly he expected AD to put a lot more distance between them based on what he knows at home.
                  Agree Lobos. I think people might be guilty of entrenching in their positions they held before the race.

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                  • It's clear the trainer thought AD underperformed.

                    Gordon Elliott felt Andy Dufresne did not run to his best.

                    "I don't think he finished his race out. From the last to the line he was up and down in the one spot and the third horse got too close to him," he said.

                    "I don't want to take anything away from the winner - he was very good. We'll have to go back to the drawing board."
                    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                    • Whats the attachment? he'd done nothing before today to expect more


                      You can think up as many excuses as you like.
                      Forget about him and move on.
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                      • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                        Whats the attachment he'd done nothing before today to expect more?

                        Forget about him and move on.
                        Scooby. You've made it quite clear you dont rate the horse, and thats your prerogative. Why do you feel the need to tell people to 'forget about him and move on'? If people like him and want to give him another chance, thats their prerogative too.

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                        • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                          Whats the attachment? he'd done nothing before today to expect more


                          You can think up as many excuses as you like.
                          Forget about him and move on.
                          Are you ET in disguise?

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                          • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                            Scooby. You've made it quite clear you dont rate the horse, and thats your prerogative. Why do you feel the need to tell people to 'forget about him and move on'? If people like him and want to give him another chance, thats their prerogative too.
                            Filll your boots @16/1. And see where it gets you.

                            Theres no place for sentiment or excuses. It you want to make money.
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                            • This forum seems to be getting more black and white all the time.

                              Some seem obsessed about 'being right' than just discussing and enjoying this fantastic sport.

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                                Are you ET in disguise?
                                He's been clearly over hyped and judged way too highly on here. Now hes beat fair and square by a horse who isn't a world beater himself. Every excuse under the sun comes up.
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