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  • Dlauro over hyped after beating trees. As though.
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    • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
      Dlauro over hyped after beating trees. As though.
      Yeah, agree now, cashing out I think

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      • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
        Dlauro over hyped after beating trees. As though.
        Absolutely the winner was beaten 20lenghts by Embittered & Blackbow. Looked a poor maiden.

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        • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
          Absolutely the winner was beaten 20lenghts by Embittered & Blackbow. Looked a poor maiden.
          On first viewing it looks poor enough form. Dlauro drifted near the off, so did the Mullin's three. I'm some how trying to justify to myself the best in that field were unfit. Did notice that the first time Fils Spirituel was asked by Townend he picked up and went back on the bridle before stopping again. Mullin's are needing runs, i wouldn't be surprised to see them improve next time, but they;'d need to. Not sure on Dlauro tho.

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          • Whilst Dlauro clearly hasn't any form of note in the book, I wouldn't be giving up on him just yet. That was too bad to be true.

            I will certainly be keeping my eyes on him... could well be a Martin Pipe candidate.

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            • Whoever shifted him to JP is after having it off!

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              • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                Whoever shifted him to JP is after having it off!
                Im not sure anyone is 'having it off' tbh Sean. There are so many horses like this in training these days.... horses that are sold for ridiculous sums havintg won egg and spoon races easily. The simple truth is nobody (buyer or seller) really know how good they are at that time... its complete guesswork!

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                • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                  Im not sure anyone is 'having it off' tbh Sean. There are so many horses like this in training these days.... horses that are sold for ridiculous sums havintg won egg and spoon races easily. The simple truth is nobody (buyer or seller) really know how good they are at that time... its complete guesswork!
                  Think they deserve more credit than that (guesswork). They spend a lot of money and are knowledgeable enough.
                  But you're correct that there are just as many, if not more that are bought for large sums that don't end up that good, as there are that do make the grade.
                  Joseph clearly thought highly of this horse, and it remains to be seen how good he is, or could be.

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                  • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                    Im not sure anyone is 'having it off' tbh Sean. There are so many horses like this in training these days.... horses that are sold for ridiculous sums havintg won egg and spoon races easily. The simple truth is nobody (buyer or seller) really know how good they are at that time... its complete guesswork!
                    In many cases that’s true but in this case I disagree with you. He’s a 6 year old with a poor injury record & poor collateral form in the book from his bumper.

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                    • Fair point on the injury record SR.

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                      • Not sure if this should be in Supreme thread. Great field of 10 left in the Royal Bond. Hope most of them are declared. Interesting to me that Midnight Run still there.

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                        • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                          Whilst Dlauro clearly hasn't any form of note in the book, I wouldn't be giving up on him just yet. That was too bad to be true.

                          I will certainly be keeping my eyes on him... could well be a Martin Pipe candidate.

                          I agree with this. Way to early to conclude that Dlauro is over hyped. Joseph has a lot of horses in his yard and he will know whom are his best horses. Surely they train their horses against one another to determine the best horses in the yard. Joseph clearly has more in his yard that trees to run past. Dlauro has been highly rated and that performance was too bad to be true. I for one will stay close to his performances.

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                          • Originally posted by Cheltenham Novice Chase View Post
                            I agree with this. Way to early to conclude that Dlauro is over hyped. Joseph has a lot of horses in his yard and he will know whom are his best horses. Surely they train their horses against one another to determine the best horses in the yard. Joseph clearly has more in his yard that trees to run past. Dlauro has been highly rated and that performance was too bad to be true. I for one will stay close to his performances.
                            When has he been highly rated? Apart from him having a big price tag the rest is assumption, he's also had injury after injury.
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                            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
                              When has he been highly rated? Apart from him having a big price tag the rest is assumption, he's also had injury after injury.
                              By rated I don’t mean a handicapper’s rating, I’m simply referring to the comments attributed to Dlauro in Joseph’s Stable Tour i.e. “He is a very exciting horse”. That’s not a comment you make about a average horse. He could have said that about any horse but he chose to say it about Dlauro. As to his performance in the race, he was travelling nicely throughout the race and then found nothing. I suspect something will come to light. I would have confidence in Joseph knowing who his strongest horses are.

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                              • From the post race reports:

                                "Joseph Patrick O'Brien, trainer of Dlauro (FR), reported to the Clerk of Scales that his charge burst a blood vessel."

                                "The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer examined Dlauro (FR), trained by Joseph Patrick O'Brien, at the request of the Stewards and reported the animal to be blowing hard post race."

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