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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Loving it most of you trying to convince yourselves that taking on Honey at level weights is easier than taking on Paisley getting half a stone over 3 miles. Dont get me wrong, Im desperate for Paisley and his owner to win again and rather Benie had her match up with my darling in the Mares, but we all know if Benie went Stayers she'd be a hot fav to turn Paisley over and the £60k extra pot has to be very tempting too. Love it, just love it.
    You don't half chat some shite Lobos.


    Honeysuckle is rated 150?
    Paisley Park is rated 169?




    Whichever way you cut it, at the moment Paisley Park is miles clear of anything Honeysuckle has EVER acheived.

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    • Originally posted by Pendil View Post
      Apples didn't turn up today so she beat nothing. I'm happy with talk about her for the Stayers as it gives an extra point for ITCF to win the that race
      Have they pushed ITCF out today, based on BDD winning?



      That's an odd move isn't it.

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
        You don't half chat some shite Lobos.


        Honeysuckle is rated 150?
        Paisley Park is rated 169?




        Whichever way you cut it, at the moment Paisley Park is miles clear of anything Honeysuckle has EVER acheived.
        ...at the moment

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          Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          You don't half chat some shite Lobos.


          Honeysuckle is rated 150?
          Paisley Park is rated 169?




          Whichever way you cut it, at the moment Paisley Park is miles clear of anything Honeysuckle has EVER acheived.
          This isn’t being pedantic, honest
          Honeysuckle has an official Irish rating of 158 (plus 7lb Mares allowance) she isn’t too far away from PP.
          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
            He

            This isn’t being pedantic, honest
            Honeysuckle has an official Irish rating of 158 (plus 7lb Mares allowance) she isn’t too far away from PP.
            My own fault for using the Racing Post ..... BUT.....

            The 7lb isn't relevant though is it for Benie Des Dieux


            For BDD,

            Paisley Park is 169
            Honeysucke is 158



            That's 11 lbs.... I'd argue that is far away?

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            • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
              He

              This isn’t being pedantic, honest
              Honeysuckle has an official Irish rating of 158 (plus 7lb Mares allowance) she isn’t too far away from PP.
              He did say at the moment, meaning until she wins the Irish Churdle next week from Sharjah.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                He did say at the moment, meaning until she wins the Irish Churdle next week from Sharjah.
                I hope she does.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  He did say at the moment, meaning until she wins the Irish Churdle next week from Sharjah.
                  Tis feasible that she's more formidible by the time we get to March.



                  Only takes Paisley beaten this weekend and Honeysuckle to bolt up next weekend..... both are POSSIBLE.




                  Right now though, if Cheltenham was tomorrow, Honeysuckle is much easier to beat than Paisley Park?

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                    Tis feasible that she's more formidible by the time we get to March.



                    Only takes Paisley beaten this weekend and Honeysuckle to bolt up next weekend..... both are POSSIBLE.




                    Right now though, if Cheltenham was tomorrow, Honeysuckle is much easier to beat than Paisley Park?
                    No good asking me is it !! The bookies think so......at the moment. I'm off to trials day Saturday so I'll let you know how good Paisley is up close and personal. Before racing I think I may have 3 AP doubles.....Honey Mares/Benie Stayers....Honey Churdle/Benie Mares and Honey Churdle/ Benie Stayers. That should do it.

                    Edit... forgot, already did first double!!
                    Last edited by Lobos; 23 January 2020, 09:49 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                      My own fault for using the Racing Post ..... BUT.....

                      The 7lb isn't relevant though is it for Benie Des Dieux


                      For BDD,

                      Paisley Park is 169
                      Honeysucke is 158



                      That's 11 lbs.... I'd argue that is far away?
                      Bad arithmetic I would say that's 4lbs

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                      • Hope paisley comes out and thrash’s ITCF on Saturday personally think benie is good enough to come here but I’d be going for redemption for last year why have a mares programme if the best don’t run in it pointless

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                        • Reading Mullins comments again after her win yesterday have I got this right....if the fez starts on G/S and the weather is set fair she will go Mares but if it's Soft and likely to stay Soft she'll go Stayers ? That's how I read it.

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                          • Think paisley will win but one at a price is Summerville Boy , two time grade one winner and relatively new at trip.20/1 currently wont be available after weekend im guessing.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                              Reading Mullins comments again after her win yesterday have I got this right....if the fez starts on G/S and the weather is set fair she will go Mares but if it's Soft and likely to stay Soft she'll go Stayers ? That's how I read it.
                              Potentially yes.....but with Mullins it’s a grade on day 1 and I think he would regret (if no others win on the day) not taking up the mares 100% if the ground is soft, which it is always on the softer side of good to soft.

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                              • Mares is an easier race than the stayers regardless of what happens pre festival (apart from injuries of course) imo.

                                Honey is only potential one to beat in the mares imo.

                                Stayers you have pp itcf Summerville boy city island and possibly even champ.

                                She did look brilliant but day 1 grade 1 on the board is Mullins normal way of thinking.
                                Last edited by Craigy14; 24 January 2020, 07:32 AM.

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