Stayers Hurdle 2020

[The King Pimm]

The Stayers is the race that the bookies have tended to give the most generous odds on come the day.
It's just always tended to be a race where the odds haven't reflected the superioity.

Thistlecrack was Evens

Even Big Bucks went off 5/6F, 10/11F, 5/6F for this race
when his other races around those went off 2/7, 2/13, 4/6, 1/8, 30/100, 1/4, 2/9.

I cant see him being any bigger than 1/2.
Maybe wishful thinking but I think they'll definately be a couple going a similar price to now (8/11) and maybe a touch short of Evens
Take the Cleeve - he went off 4/6

Yeah I agree, I think there will be plenty of boosts and offers in the day and I do think you’ll get PP at evens

[Middle_Of_March]

The Stayers is the race that the bookies have tended to give the most generous odds on come the day.
It's just always tended to be a race where the odds haven't reflected the superioity.

Thistlecrack was Evens

Even Big Bucks went off 5/6F, 10/11F, 5/6F for this race
when his other races around those went off 2/7, 2/13, 4/6, 1/8, 30/100, 1/4, 2/9.

I cant see him being any bigger than 1/2.
Maybe wishful thinking but I think they'll definately be a couple going a similar price to now (8/11) and maybe a touch short of Evens
Take the Cleeve - he went off 4/6

That Thistlecrack Evens really was one of the best prices I’ve seen in all my years watching racing. I still can’t believe he wasn’t odds on.

[robith]

That Thistlecrack Evens really was one of the best prices I’ve seen in all my years watching racing. I still can’t believe he wasn’t odds on.

That day was wild. Vautour, Thistlecrack and Limini were all hilariously the wrong price. Add in Moon Racer and I whacked them all in an acca with On The Fringe the next day too

I started the day 98 points down and I finished the day 80 points up

[squiggsy68]

In previous years Betfair did me huge favours with the boosts on their preview night for the stayers - Thistlecrack at 2/1 and PP at 5/2 both for the maximum £50 made it far easier to turn a profit on the week.

Note that my 'normal' stakes during the season are far less than that - mostly NH. Though for Chelt / Aintree you can probably double that.

For the Flat I tend to be much more of a spectator only.

[jack1092]

In previous years Betfair did me huge favours with the boosts on their preview night for the stayers - Thistlecrack at 2/1 and PP at 5/2 both for the maximum £50 made it far easier to turn a profit on the week.

Note that my 'normal' stakes during the season are £5 / £10 and £20 if I really fancy something - mostly NH. Though for Chelt / Aintree you can probably double that.

For the Flat I tend to be much more of a spectator only.

This is probably going to require editing.

Monetary amounts mentioned.

Also, in my very honest opinion, such blatant aftertiming is also distasteful....but it does happen in here on the regular

[ComplyOrDie]

This is probably going to require editing.

Monetary amounts mentioned.

Also, in my very honest opinion, such blatant aftertiming is also distasteful....but it does happen in here on the regular

Noticed plenty in the diary section this season

[squiggsy68]

This is probably going to require editing.

Monetary amounts mentioned.

Also, in my very honest opinion, such blatant aftertiming is also distasteful....but it does happen in here on the regular

Sorry - didn't realise about the monetary amounts - assume leaving the reference to the max BF let you have on the boost is ok?

Agree re: after-timing (though I wouldn't necessarily say that about backing favs, not like I'm trying to claim psychic insight!), but my point was more around the boosts that they gave to what looked really solid favourites - can't recall exactly but I think Thistlecrack was Evens when they boosted to 2/1, and PP around 11/8 boosted to 5/2.

They boosted Samcro in the Ballymore as well as I recall.

It's one of the previews I always tune in to, partly for the panel but mainly to see what the boosts are.

[MadeinJapan]

Sorry - didn't realise about the monetary amounts - assume leaving the reference to the max BF let you have on the boost is ok?

Agree re: after-timing (though I wouldn't necessarily say that about backing favs, not like I'm trying to claim psychic insight!), but my point was more around the boosts that they gave to what looked really solid favourites - can't recall exactly but I think Thistlecrack was Evens when they boosted to 2/1, and PP around 11/8 boosted to 5/2.

They boosted Samcro in the Ballymore as well as I recall.

It's one of the previews I always tune in to, partly for the panel but mainly to see what the boosts are.

Fair point about the boosts too - they don't usually hold them for too long either & have to be quick so if there's one you fancy have to get involved there and then. I always have the acc. loaded up prior to the preview going live. Can see them being standout on Altior in the QM for example...

[Istabraq]

In previous years Betfair did me huge favours with the boosts on their preview night for the stayers - Thistlecrack at 2/1 and PP at 5/2 both for the maximum £50 made it far easier to turn a profit on the week.

Note that my 'normal' stakes during the season are far less than that - mostly NH. Though for Chelt / Aintree you can probably double that.

For the Flat I tend to be much more of a spectator only.

There are no rules forbidding the mentioning of monetary values, however, larger stakes players could influence smaller stakes players (or smaller stakes players could feel encouraged to have bigger bets) so people tend to use points, obviously the more points the more confidence in selections.

We have also stickied the responsible gambling thread for immediate assistance

[squiggsy68]

There are no rules forbidding the mentioning of monetary values, however, larger stakes players could influence smaller stakes players (or smaller stakes players could feel encouraged to have bigger bets) so people tend to use points, obviously the more points the more confidence in selections.

We have also stickied the responsible gambling thread for immediate assistance

Ok - cheers. Noted for future

[Kevloaf]

We'll be lucky to get Evens for more than "max allowed" when bookies do their previews won't we.

You can imagine on the Betfair one (especially now PP sponser the race) they go Evens for 15 minutes during the preview.



Shopping around, should be able to get a decent enough amount on at Evens perhaps?




I'll probably just wait for the day and get a bit lumpy

[Eggs]

....City Island being aimed here; source ATR banner quoting Martin Brassil.

[FaugheenTheMachine]

City Island for the Stayers was the first antepost bet I struck for this season; nice to get a run at least

[charlie]

City Island for the Stayers was the first antepost bet I struck for this season; nice to get a run at least

Love it when they come back. I would be surprised but not blown away if he was good enough to beat PP

[Morley Street]

Emiton runs in the Unibet Rendlesham Hurdle at Haydock on Saturday. I was disappointed with his return to action at Cheltenham on New Year’s Day but I put it down to him being rusty after an injury lay-off.
He’s in tip-top order now and has done plenty of schooling. His work has been very, very good and we left him in the Paddy Power Stayers’ Hurdle this week. It’s a big day for him at Haydock but I would expect a much better run.
It was probably my fault at Cheltenham. I was a bit easy on him as he was coming back from the injury and was happy to just get him there. He was in good form but is a different horse now and will leave that run well behind. I’m not saying he’ll win but he’ll put up a serious performance.

50/1 with Sportsbook simply too big.