Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

[Vautour]

Abacadabras is not on oddschecker supreme betting anymore. Is there when i bring the page up but then vanishes

He jumps down the page to about the 12th horse as they are saying he is 25s on spreadex.

Theres no injury issue - if there was, Gordon would have mentioned on Thursday when he wasnt declared.

[somer1]

When i click view all odds hes there then vanishes

[somer1]

He jumps down the page to about the 12th horse as they are saying he is 25s on spreadex.

Theres no injury issue - if there was, Gordon would have mentioned on Thursday when he wasnt declared.

Just thought it was Malone road thing all over again

[germanshepherd]

if u did a tiny bit of investigation youd realise its just an oddschecker glitch. click on the spreadex 25/1 it's not there he's 11/2. there's money to back him on bex too. please stop the conspiracy theories.

[somer1]

if u did a tiny bit of investigation youd relaise its just an oddschecker glitch. click on the spreadex 25/1 it's not there he's 11/2. there's money to back him on bex too. please stop the conspiracy theories.

I was just saying he wasn't there. No conspiracy theory.And please dont take the piss as i just might take the piss out of you punctuation!!!

[kinloch brae]

You need to watch the interview again, it's just been posted on the bartlett thread.

If it is on there perhaps you can provide the link? I can see the link to the racing post.

At least three people have confirmed what I have said about the RTE interview. How much more evidence do you need?

[TimRiggins]

If it is on there perhaps you can provide the link? I can see the link to the racing post.

At least three people have confirmed what I have said about the RTE interview. How much more evidence do you need?

https://twitter.com/racingtv/status/1223976024297418752?s

[TimRiggins]

You need to watch the interview again, it's just been posted on the bartlett thread.

Guessing the RTE interview was before he spoke to Nick Luck, and before he had thought about it

[The King Pimm]

I posted on the wrong thread earlier. Lucky One has entries at Thurles on Thursday.

[kinloch brae]

Why is there no logic in running them in the same race? What if both horses best chance of winning is the supreme?

If that was definitely true then you might argue that case. Here it is by no means certain. There simply isn't enough evidence. If I had the chance to win two Grade 1 races or one Grade 1 it would be a no brainer. I doubt Henderson will want to shift Shishkin and it looks as if Asterion Forlonge will appreciate stepping up in trip. He was ridden like a stayer and the further he went the better he went. Envoi Allen is not the certainty for the Ballymore some of those who have backed him might want to suggest. His two mile form was franked, his last run wasn't. Of course it makes it easier if every possible challenger is encouraged to go elsewhere.

[kinloch brae]

Guessing the RTE interview was before he spoke to Nick Luck, and before he had thought about it

Or he's sold Snooty a dummy? Either way it will be the owner's decision. Very unlikely Shishkin will be going anywhere.

[Ray]

If that was definitely true then you might argue that case. Here it is by no means certain. There simply isn't enough evidence. If I had the chance to win two Grade 1 races or one Grade 1 it would be a no brainer. I doubt Henderson will want to shift Shishkin and it looks as if Asterion Forlonge will appreciate stepping up in trip. He was ridden like a stayer and the further he went the better he went. Envoi Allen is not the certainty for the Ballymore some of those who have backed him might want to suggest. His two mile form was franked, his last run wasn't. Of course it makes it easier if every possible challenger is encouraged to go elsewhere.

There are plenty of horses with just as much of a chance, my worry for envoi is the 1 run at 2m 4f

[Kevloaf]

They also have The Big Getaway, who they have said is a Ballymore horse?

[Scooby91]

I posted on the wrong thread earlier. Lucky One has entries at Thurles on Thursday.

Hopefully he manages to get in this time. Currently high in the ballot again.

[Faugheen_Machine]

If that was definitely true then you might argue that case. Here it is by no means certain. There simply isn't enough evidence. If I had the chance to win two Grade 1 races or one Grade 1 it would be a no brainer. I doubt Henderson will want to shift Shishkin and it looks as if Asterion Forlonge will appreciate stepping up in trip. He was ridden like a stayer and the further he went the better he went. Envoi Allen is not the certainty for the Ballymore some of those who have backed him might want to suggest. His two mile form was franked, his last run wasn't. Of course it makes it easier if every possible challenger is encouraged to go elsewhere.

We are probably both talking through our pockets slightly but I don't see any reason to step AF up in trip, other than the ownership issue. If he was owned by RR then it would be supreme and he'd be favourite right now.