Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

[ComplyOrDie]

Captain Guinness fanboys taken a blow to the nuts that his conqueror isn't even deemed good enough to be on the boat!


I just wish somebody on this forum had the class to call out that form for being pants when it happened so we didn't all waste our dough

Funny you should mention it, I was ready to cash my saver bet on Captain Guinness based on Andy Dufresne being deemed not good enough to go to the festival, but had decided against it for now.

[Run4Home]

Think at this point Willie has just left Fly Smart in to troll us all

Joe chambers says should run in next 10 days in a maiden - not too positive on him though...

[darlojim]

Joe chambers says should run in next 10 days in a maiden - not too positive on him though...

quotes?...

[Run4Home]

Was on a podcast I'll dig out the link now

See ante post bets thread for few quotes I jotted down

Fly Smart - to run in a maiden hurdle in next 10 days 'whether he is good or not I have no idea' 'social media darling - talked up in some book' .

[harchibald]

Captain Guinness fanboys taken a blow to the nuts that his conqueror isn't even deemed good enough to be on the boat!


I just wish somebody on this forum had the class to call out that form for being pants when it happened so we didn't all waste our dough

You gave me a fright there Kev I thought Captain Guinness wasnt declared

[Jorvik]

Backed Mt Leinster in this so far. Think a few others have said, similarities with the route Klassical Dream took and it's even more open this year i'd say so happy to have a dabble at a big price.

[Ray]

Mt leinster will get tucked by easywork at DRF

[Istabraq]

Mt leinster will get tucked by easywork at DRF

Stick to opinion please, anything else has a habit of antagonising...

[Ray]

Apologies, it is my opinion that easywork wins at DRF as hes done it already (beating mt leinster at 2 miles) i think mt leinster his form looks better on first look but i think entoucas needs further then 2 miles to get the best out of him..im
Hoping easywork wins this and they enter into the supreme

[Birds Nest]

Backed Mt Leinster in this so far. Think a few others have said, similarities with the route Klassical Dream took and it's even more open this year i'd say so happy to have a dabble at a big price.

Any drying ground would improve mt Leinsters chances for the weekend and the supreme..

[Morley Street]

There seems to have been very little recent chat about Shiskin and his chances here. Great early shout by Charlie and a few got on at big prices on the back of it. A few, including me, cashed too early on the back of an entry over the Bally trip, combined with Nico’s comments post race.
After initially watching his maiden win I was looking to crab the form... a natural reaction when you’ve made a betting mistake. Since then, I’ve watched countless reruns and have been a little more impressed each time. This combined with the time splits analysis and judges comments like Kealey, make me think he’s the one to beat now, especially in a year where Willie appears to have no standout and Aba whilst bringing the best form, doesn’t look bombproof.
I think we all think he’s too short now for what he’s achieved but recently I’ve been including Shiskin in some dirty doubles and trebles with horses I fancy in order to recoup the position that I prematurely cashed. I’ve managed to do this but haven’t posted the bets as many were late reactions.
I’d be interested to here folks’ considered and unbiased thoughts now... is he going to continue to shorten and go off a very short priced and worthy fav, or is it just hype?

[Quevega]

There seems to have been very little recent chat about Shiskin and his chances here. Great early shout by Charlie and a few got on at big prices on the back of it. A few, including me, cashed too early on the back of an entry over the Bally trip, combined with Nico’s comments post race.
After initially watching his maiden win I was looking to crab the form... a natural reaction when you’ve made a betting mistake. Since then, I’ve watched countless reruns and have been a little more impressed each time. This combined with the time splits analysis and judges comments like Kealey, make me think he’s the one to beat now, especially in a year where Willie appears to have no standout and Aba whilst bringing the best form, doesn’t look bombproof.
I think we all think he’s too short now for what he’s achieved but recently I’ve been including Shiskin in some dirty doubles and trebles with horses I fancy in order to recoup the position that I prematurely cashed. I’ve managed to do this but haven’t posted the bets as many were late reactions.
I’d be interested to here folks’ considered and unbiased thoughts now... is he going to continue to shorten and go off a very short priced and worthy fav, or is it just hype?

He's definitely not worthy of his current price.
But may shorten if he wins next time out, and possibly quite a bit if he wins as impressively.
He'll then still be too short again, and the Irish challengers will be the value, especially whoever triumphs in dublin this weekend.
Would be my guess

[The King Pimm]

I’m thinking of backing the other Henderson horse Fred today. I think after competing previously as favourite and not winning including at Cheltenham that win on Boxing Day May bring him on. He’s massive odds for a Henderson horse and could potentially win at Sandown on Saturday. Like Abracadabras he was kept busy in the first half of the season and I’m sure connections were expecting a few more wins but he may be good enough to win this, he certainly has the stamina and attitude to win it.

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

There seems to have been very little recent chat about Shiskin and his chances here. Great early shout by Charlie and a few got on at big prices on the back of it. A few, including me, cashed too early on the back of an entry over the Bally trip, combined with Nico’s comments post race.
After initially watching his maiden win I was looking to crab the form... a natural reaction when you’ve made a betting mistake. Since then, I’ve watched countless reruns and have been a little more impressed each time. This combined with the time splits analysis and judges comments like Kealey, make me think he’s the one to beat now, especially in a year where Willie appears to have no standout and Aba whilst bringing the best form, doesn’t look bombproof.
I think we all think he’s too short now for what he’s achieved but recently I’ve been including Shiskin in some dirty doubles and trebles with horses I fancy in order to recoup the position that I prematurely cashed. I’ve managed to do this but haven’t posted the bets as many were late reactions.
I’d be interested to here folks’ considered and unbiased thoughts now... is he going to continue to shorten and go off a very short priced and worthy fav, or is it just hype?

I got involved last weekend NRNB and have been topping up with freebies as think as Q has said his price is still likely to go one way if he wins well next time (tomorrow?). I know a few not on mentioned waiting for offers on the day, the problem is 7 places or money back offers aren’t so great on a potentially 7/4 shot

[Hardy Eustace]

There seems to have been very little recent chat about Shiskin and his chances here. Great early shout by Charlie and a few got on at big prices on the back of it. A few, including me, cashed too early on the back of an entry over the Bally trip, combined with Nico’s comments post race.
After initially watching his maiden win I was looking to crab the form... a natural reaction when you’ve made a betting mistake. Since then, I’ve watched countless reruns and have been a little more impressed each time. This combined with the time splits analysis and judges comments like Kealey, make me think he’s the one to beat now, especially in a year where Willie appears to have no standout and Aba whilst bringing the best form, doesn’t look bombproof.
I think we all think he’s too short now for what he’s achieved but recently I’ve been including Shiskin in some dirty doubles and trebles with horses I fancy in order to recoup the position that I prematurely cashed. I’ve managed to do this but haven’t posted the bets as many were late reactions.
I’d be interested to here folks’ considered and unbiased thoughts now... is he going to continue to shorten and go off a very short priced and worthy fav, or is it just hype?

I agree. He is definitely too short. How much shorter can he get? Surely not that much, if he wins next weeks sydney banks I would imagine he will get cut a point into 3's and providing there isnt a shock result in the 2m grade 1 at he DRF, for me, he cannot be any shorter than 3's on the big day. There aren't that many trials left either, apart from Sunday's grade 1 and the Dovecote are there any other reasonable 'trials'?