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Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    I actually think Gordon could do a clean sweep of the novice races. He has had a good group of novices before with one standing out. However this season the likes of Envoi, AD, Abra and Fury all look outstanding individuals to me and I doubt Mullins will be able to match that group.
    Ya see as much as i appreciate Envoi is superb looking so far- he really has been beating most of the same bunch of horses, like todays were basically the ones he met in bumpers.

    Abacadabras or whatever, is a very good horse- but he's not anything out of the ordinary.

    AD obviously looks exceptional, but again, he has still to prove it. His form doesn't look too bad as it stands, but quite untested.

    Fury has beaten trees so far and wasn't an exceptional bumper by any means. For all he's probably not a bumper horse!

    I think people need to take a pull on the Elliot Novice love-in just now.......

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      I actually think Gordon could do a clean sweep of the novice races. He has had a good group of novices before with one standing out. However this season the likes of Envoi, AD, Abra and Fury all look outstanding individuals to me and I doubt Mullins will be able to match that group.
      Way too premature to be drawing this conclusion. Mullins doesn’t tend to produce his best novices pre December so it’s impossible to gauge what Willie has until we see them (plus there are other trainers ). Gordon was mob handed in plenty of novice races last year and struggled.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        I actually think Gordon could do a clean sweep of the novice races. He has had a good group of novices before with one standing out. However this season the likes of Envoi, AD, Abra and Fury all look outstanding individuals to me and I doubt Mullins will be able to match that group.
        Really ?
        If so back them now at better prices ?
        Honeysuckle was the nap bet today , your horse and you didn’t back it .
        Hope Honeysuckle and BDD serve up a real thriller come March and I’m still in the BDD camp

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          I actually think Gordon could do a clean sweep of the novice races. He has had a good group of novices before with one standing out. However this season the likes of Envoi, AD, Abra and Fury all look outstanding individuals to me and I doubt Mullins will be able to match that group.
          A few days ago people were waxing lyrical about a Mullins horse for the supreme in unexcepted.

          Willie has plenty set to run, he may well have saved the best ones behind, like he's just happened to do every single year, because unlike Gordon's, they've already ran over hurdles in france and have been jumping at home since 2.

          i know for a fact that they've been running horses in schooling hurdles and schooling bumpers at the curragh in the last month.

          There's one out in the week that might be a bit ok.
          I'd have thought you'll find a few nice ones in there, so you can rule them out as they run.


          Figaroc
          Fly smart
          Feu du bresil
          Lucky one.
          Saint roi
          Lamarckise
          Dolcita
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          • Originally posted by Humble Pie View Post
            Really ?
            If so back them now at better prices ?
            Honeysuckle was the nap bet today , your horse and you didn’t back it .
            Hope Honeysuckle and BDD serve up a real thriller come March and I’m still in the BDD camp
            I've backed them all at big prices and done doubles. I've already given my reasons for not backing Honey today. Personally don't think you'll get your thriller in March, Honey will win comfortably.

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            • Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post
              A few days ago people were waxing lyrical about a Mullins horse for the supreme in unexcepted.

              Willie has plenty set to run, he may well have saved the best ones behind, like he's just happened to do every single year, because unlike Gordon's, they've already ran over hurdles in france and have been jumping at home since 2.

              i know for a fact that they've been running horses in schooling hurdles and schooling bumpers at the curragh in the last month.

              There's one out in the week that might be a bit ok.
              I'd have thought you'll find a few nice ones in there, so you can rule them out as they run.


              Figaroc
              Fly smart
              Feu du bresil
              Lucky one.
              Saint roi
              Lamarckise
              Dolcita
              Backed Fly Smart and Lamarckise out of those and if course some could turn out very good but they would need to in order to match Gordon's bunch. Just think this year they very special. He's a lucky chap.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                Backed Fly Smart and Lamarckise out of those and if course some could turn out very good but they would need to in order to match Gordon's bunch. Just think this year they very special. He's a lucky chap.
                I think willie might well be ok.

                I'd give abacadabras a big shout in the supreme though.
                Imo envoi allen will be very hard to beat in the ballymore,
                But I wouldnt be believing the hype of andy dufresne. And fury road may well look good and end up the bartlett fav, but its a lottery of a race.
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                • RP Monday Jury

                  What was your verdict on the two big novice races at Fairyhouse on Sunday?

                  Noel Fehily, former jockey I was very impressed with Fakir D’Oudairies, who clearly loves jumping fences and looks a very good horse. You had to be impressed by Envoi Allen too. His bumper form was top drawer and he’s looked good in both starts over hurdles. I think he’ll be even better when he goes up in trip.

                  Micky Hammond, trainer Envoi Allen was impressive and looks a machine, he jumps well and it looks as though you can ride him whichever way you want. Fakir D’Oudairies jumped exceptionally well and has bags of scope for a four-year-old. He could be even better back at two miles. Over this trip it might have fallen Samcro’s way – his was a novicey mistake.

                  Patrick Mullins, jockey Samcro looks like he is back to his best. He was giving Fakir D’Oudairies 8lb and probably would have beaten him too. Envoi Allen looks like he could do anything he wants in life.

                  Amy Murphy, trainer Envoi Allen was a top bumper horse last year and showed he can also jump when making all in the Royal Bond for Cheveley Park Stud. He looks a natural for the Supreme. It would have been fascinating to see how Samcro would have fared in the Drinmore if he had stayed on his feet. Fakir D’Oudairies didn’t look to be stopping and may well have won anyway.

                  Kevin O'Malley, Tote spokesman Envoi Allen looks ideal for the Supreme Novices’ Hurdle and a range of top races in the future. He stands out a mile and backs up the imposing frame where it matters. Runner-up Abacadabras is no slouch, either. Drinmore winner Fakir D’Oudairies jumps like a bunny and looks an Arkle type, while Samcro’s jumping is a concern.

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                    Patrick Mullins, jockey Honeysuckle was terrific. She really came of age in the Hatton’s Grace and I hope she and Rachael Blackmore can go right to the top together. As for Envoi Allen, if I could buy one horse right now in Ireland or Britain it would definitely be him.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      I actually think Gordon could do a clean sweep of the novice races. He has had a good group of novices before with one standing out. However this season the likes of Envoi, AD, Abra and Fury all look outstanding individuals to me and I doubt Mullins will be able to match that group.
                      It'd be odds on that the 4 you mention don't all make it.


                      Theres no chance he sweeps all 3 novice hurdles.


                      If Willie has never done it, Gordy won't be doing it...



                      Recency bias is clouding your judgement.
                      For a man that's been watching racing as long as you, you should know that is a dangerous game.

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                      • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                        RP Monday Jury

                        What was your verdict on the two big novice races at Fairyhouse on Sunday?

                        Noel Fehily, former jockey I was very impressed with Fakir D’Oudairies, who clearly loves jumping fences and looks a very good horse. You had to be impressed by Envoi Allen too. His bumper form was top drawer and he’s looked good in both starts over hurdles. I think he’ll be even better when he goes up in trip.

                        Micky Hammond, trainer Envoi Allen was impressive and looks a machine, he jumps well and it looks as though you can ride him whichever way you want. Fakir D’Oudairies jumped exceptionally well and has bags of scope for a four-year-old. He could be even better back at two miles. Over this trip it might have fallen Samcro’s way – his was a novicey mistake.

                        Patrick Mullins, jockey Samcro looks like he is back to his best. He was giving Fakir D’Oudairies 8lb and probably would have beaten him too. Envoi Allen looks like he could do anything he wants in life.

                        Amy Murphy, trainer Envoi Allen was a top bumper horse last year and showed he can also jump when making all in the Royal Bond for Cheveley Park Stud. He looks a natural for the Supreme. It would have been fascinating to see how Samcro would have fared in the Drinmore if he had stayed on his feet. Fakir D’Oudairies didn’t look to be stopping and may well have won anyway.

                        Kevin O'Malley, Tote spokesman Envoi Allen looks ideal for the Supreme Novices’ Hurdle and a range of top races in the future. He stands out a mile and backs up the imposing frame where it matters. Runner-up Abacadabras is no slouch, either. Drinmore winner Fakir D’Oudairies jumps like a bunny and looks an Arkle type, while Samcro’s jumping is a concern.
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                          • Originally posted by FaugheenTheMachine View Post
                            Good read, cheers FTM

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                            • Originally posted by FaugheenTheMachine View Post
                              F**k Me.
                              Who gave Keith a bag of glue ??

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                              • Originally posted by FaugheenTheMachine View Post
                                Hilarious.

                                The amount of people who would have now backed him for 3 seperate races.

                                He can only run in 1, and I'd have my balls on the line, that it won't be the CH.
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