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Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020
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Originally posted by charlie View PostPost race comments will be interesting. If Gordon says EA likely to go up I’d expect Abacadabras to go even shorter
Abracadabras has laid down a huge marker to be their second best novice. As we stand you'd have to think these two will be split up Supreme and Ballymore and be tough to beat.
Up to Andy Dufresne to try and throw his hat into the ring now...
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Originally posted by Scooby91 View PostI dont think embittered is a mug at all, he went on with them, but was left for dead in the final stages, and paid the price.
Abacadabras didn't find as much as he looked like he had though.
But Envoi Allen appeared to quicken again when he felt the other horse in behind, but that could have been the camera angle.
And Envoi Allen might be very decent anyway so no shame on abac
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostI've said previously that I think where EA will end up will in some way be guided by his other runners, as Im sure everyone now believes he could win either race.
Abracadabras has laid down a huge marker to be their second best novice. As we stand you'd have to think these two will be split up Supreme and Ballymore and be tough to beat.
Up to Andy Dufresne to try and throw his hat into the ring now...
No no no.
Nay nay neigh.
Envoi Allen goes wherever they think he is best suited.
The rest slot in around him...
Different owners too, you're doing too much over thinking today
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostNope, nope, nope.
No no no.
Nay nay neigh.
Envoi Allen goes wherever they think he is best suited.
The rest slot in around him...
Different owners too, you're doing too much over thinking today
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What would you want from a Supreme winner? He literally has it all.... He's so slick over his hurdles, has outspeeded a very pacy horse like Abracadabras there and looks like he could stay further.
He just happens to be so good he could win a Ballymore too!
I honest dont think it matters which race he goes for, has the same chance in both.
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostYes but why is it taken as a given that is EA much better suited to the Ballymore? On what piece of form? Are you saying you dont think he would win a Supreme?
Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostNot arguing that Envoi Allen wouldn't win the Supreme, because he probably would....
but he's the Ballymore winner.
There isn't a piece of form that says he'll be better over the Ballymore trip.... there isn't a piece of form that says he won't be better though... unfair arguement.
You back him for the Supreme, good luck to you with it, if he runs in it he'll win.
I am confident he'll be in the Ballymore, and I'm not going to change. Loads of clues for me, trainer comments, owner comments, (if he's gonna stay at 2 miles they'd say now?) his PtP background, the fact he's a future staying chaser in my mind.
They'll follow Samcro's path, but get it right next season as he goes Novice Chasing.Last edited by Kevloaf; 1 December 2019, 01:02 PM.
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